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i am disappointed in null sec people. (TL:DR talking about local chat.) read first post.

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svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#341 - 2012-10-25 19:00:43 UTC  |  Edited by: svenska flicka
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Self admitted botting?

You might want to grasp harder at them straws. I don't bot, but feel free to tell sreegs I am, I'm sure it'll end well for you.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Stop dodging my question.

Your ratting in null, watching local a red enters the system your in.
What do you do?

Nothing, because I'm AFK.


Answer the question and stop being a tard.

What? Is it an impossibility to go AFK to make dinner while in nullsec? I mean, it's so safe and all.



"0.0 is not safe because if I am an idiot and go afk in an anom making lunch I can die"

Welcome to EVE, a dark and harsh universe.


Roll


also tell sreegs? wtf?? you answer hostile jump into local you are afk, so you always afk and it is always unsafe so how you make isk unless botting? stupid answers get more stupid back at ya.
Mirima Thurander
#342 - 2012-10-25 19:01:32 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Self admitted botting?

You might want to grasp harder at them straws. I don't bot, but feel free to tell sreegs I am, I'm sure it'll end well for you.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Stop dodging my question.

Your ratting in null, watching local a red enters the system your in.
What do you do?

Nothing, because I'm AFK.


Answer the question and stop being a tard.

What? Is it an impossibility to go AFK to make dinner while in nullsec? I mean, it's so safe and all.


We not talking about stupid ratters that do stupid ****.

Now answer the question.

Your ratting in null watching local a red jumps in system.

What do you do?

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#343 - 2012-10-25 19:08:24 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
"0.0 is not safe because if I am an idiot and go afk in an anom making lunch I can die"

Welcome to EVE, a dark and harsh universe.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
We not talking about stupid ratters that do stupid ****.

So what you're saying is, if I'm not paying attention at all times, nullsec is unsafe?

But you promised it was completely safe.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#344 - 2012-10-25 19:11:09 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
"0.0 is not safe because if I am an idiot and go afk in an anom making lunch I can die"

Welcome to EVE, a dark and harsh universe.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
We not talking about stupid ratters that do stupid ****.

So what you're saying is, if I'm not paying attention at all times, nullsec is unsafe?

But you promised it was completely safe.



Ok, I will now ignore you as to not derail this thread which is obviously what you are trying to accomplish.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#345 - 2012-10-25 19:12:38 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
"0.0 is not safe because if I am an idiot and go afk in an anom making lunch I can die"

Welcome to EVE, a dark and harsh universe.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
We not talking about stupid ratters that do stupid ****.

So what you're saying is, if I'm not paying attention at all times, nullsec is unsafe?

But you promised it was completely safe.



Ok, I will now ignore you as to not derail this thread which is obviously what you are trying to accomplish.

"waah the argument isn't going the way I want it to, I'll pretend to ignore you now"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Mirima Thurander
#346 - 2012-10-25 19:32:58 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
"0.0 is not safe because if I am an idiot and go afk in an anom making lunch I can die"

Welcome to EVE, a dark and harsh universe.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
We not talking about stupid ratters that do stupid ****.

So what you're saying is, if I'm not paying attention at all times, nullsec is unsafe?

But you promised it was completely safe.



Ok, I will now ignore you as to not derail this thread which is obviously what you are trying to accomplish.

"waah the argument isn't going the way I want it to, I'll pretend to ignore you now"



U still haven.answered the question why's that

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#347 - 2012-10-25 19:36:18 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
U still haven.answered the question why's that

You mean the question where the answer is "I safe up"?

What of it?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#348 - 2012-10-25 19:46:14 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Nicolo da'[Vicenza wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets Blink

npc corp poster with zero kills has spoken

yeah, yeah, eventually or soon enough my char will have a corp name next to it and you can relax on your trolling to divert the attention from any of our arguments blowing holes through yours.
Hm okay, being caught lying = winning arguments now.

Quote:
I respect unthinkables so I would imagine you are an exception to otherwise nice alliance.

I'm quite certain any member of INK would react the same to an NPC corp poster lying through their teeth about their in-game experience and claiming that lowsec mining was more rewarding and safer then hiding in an NPC corp. Well, I might be putting my thoughts more civil then most.
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#349 - 2012-10-25 19:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: svenska flicka
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Nicolo da'[Vicenza wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets Blink

npc corp poster with zero kills has spoken

yeah, yeah, eventually or soon enough my char will have a corp name next to it and you can relax on your trolling to divert the attention from any of our arguments blowing holes through yours.
Hm okay, being caught lying = winning arguments now.

Quote:
I respect unthinkables so I would imagine you are an exception to otherwise nice alliance.

I'm quite certain any member of INK would react the same to an NPC corp poster lying through their teeth about their in-game experience and claiming that lowsec mining was more rewarding and safer then hiding in an NPC corp. Well, I might be putting my thoughts more civil then most.


My argument is not less valid, so far all you have done to argue my points is bringing up my characters NPC corp status.

Have fun.

And I am sure you are the exception to an otherwise nice alliance, no doubt in my mind.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#350 - 2012-10-25 19:59:02 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:


My argument is not less valid, so far all you have done to argue my points is bringing up my characters NPC corp status.
The fact you have no experience with the game features and gameplay you're criticizing certainly makes your arguments less valid. Also,

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2094720#post2094720

Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:

The blob AKA space sov holding alliance are the ones that would hurt the most by this compared to small entities with less or no space and the more space you have....

The more space 'the blob' has, the more cloakers you need to effectively camp them, right?
Like, if a small alliance has only 6 systems total, then all you need is 6 cloakers with cynos fitted (in case they try to fight back) to shut down their PvE, right?
So which is more likely, the 100-man alliance will have 140+ characters (one per system) that could be devoted full-time to cloaky camping, or the 6000 man alliance having 6 toons available for cloaky camping purposes?

no local would be quite the buff to large alliances tbh


2 pages and no reply from you, I'd say your argument was handled a long time ago.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#351 - 2012-10-25 19:59:54 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp poster lecturing about the safety of other regions lol

almost as funny when a wormhole guy does it.



I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets Blink

I also had the pleasure of never ever being close to dying while doing anoms from the north to the south for years in EVE, because of...

local.

Sure, while you post on a 4 month old NPC alt about the years of PvEing in null sec.

I'm sure you're very trustworthy.

Tantamount to talking a bunch of **** to your overly large, musclebound, neighbor and then running inside and calling the cops when he comes over to teach you about manners.
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#352 - 2012-10-25 20:02:35 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:


My argument is not less valid, so far all you have done to argue my points is bringing up my characters NPC corp status.
The fact you have no experience with the game features and gameplay you're criticizing certainly makes your arguments less valid. Also,

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2094720#post2094720

Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:

The blob AKA space sov holding alliance are the ones that would hurt the most by this compared to small entities with less or no space and the more space you have....

The more space 'the blob' has, the more cloakers you need to effectively camp them, right?
Like, if a small alliance has only 6 systems total, then all you need is 6 cloakers with cynos fitted (in case they try to fight back) to shut down their PvE, right?
So which is more likely, the 100-man alliance will have 140+ characters (one per system) that could be devoted full-time to cloaky camping, or the 6000 man alliance having 6 toons available for cloaky camping purposes?

no local would be quite the buff to large alliances tbh


2 pages and no reply from you, I'd say your argument was handled a long time ago.



I did reply, you must have missed it, go back a page.

I do know what I am talking about, right now I enjoy the fact you come across as someone that doesn't Blink
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#353 - 2012-10-25 20:04:21 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp poster lecturing about the safety of other regions lol

almost as funny when a wormhole guy does it.



I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets Blink

I also had the pleasure of never ever being close to dying while doing anoms from the north to the south for years in EVE, because of...

local.

Sure, while you post on a 4 month old NPC alt about the years of PvEing in null sec.

I'm sure you're very trustworthy.

Tantamount to talking a bunch of **** to your overly large, musclebound, neighbor and then running inside and calling the cops when he comes over to teach you about manners.



Are you now describing your real life where people have to call the cops on you? Please, do tell more mister buff guy Lol
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#354 - 2012-10-25 20:07:19 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
I did reply, you must have missed it, go back a page.

I do know what I am talking about, right now I enjoy the fact you come across as someone that doesn't Blink

Tell us more, mr "nullsec is completely safe, no really, it's absolutely safe, well okay it's not safe if you don't pay constant attention, but it's still completely safe". I'm sure we're all ears.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#355 - 2012-10-25 20:10:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
svenska flicka wrote:

I did reply, you must have missed it, go back a page.

This lie is even more transparent than the one about your null PvP experience, mr "mining trit in lowsec is safer and more profitable then doing it in highsec in an NPC corp".
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#356 - 2012-10-25 20:13:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Natsett Amuinn
svenska flicka wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
npc corp poster lecturing about the safety of other regions lol

almost as funny when a wormhole guy does it.



I am in NPC corp as we speak, not hiding and I even had the pleasure of fighting your tengu fleets Blink

I also had the pleasure of never ever being close to dying while doing anoms from the north to the south for years in EVE, because of...

local.

Sure, while you post on a 4 month old NPC alt about the years of PvEing in null sec.

I'm sure you're very trustworthy.

Tantamount to talking a bunch of **** to your overly large, musclebound, neighbor and then running inside and calling the cops when he comes over to teach you about manners.



Are you now describing your real life where people have to call the cops on you? Please, do tell more mister buff guy Lol

************, I'm a cripple.



The tard comment wasn't personal enough. Why do you want to hurt me?
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#357 - 2012-10-25 20:20:49 UTC
Ah, another "remove local in nullsec" thread. Same tired and debunked ideas and a mixture of old and new faces admitting they are terrible at ganking.

Seriously, quit fooling yourselves. If you can't kill PvE'ers in nullsec it is because you are bad at Eve. Plenty of other players kill ratting ships all day long in nullsec. Many are so successful at it that they Plex their accounts on the loot they get. You are so bad that you will not be happy until CCP develops some mechanic that is tantamount to holding down ratters and broadcasting their location so you can get the kills you feel entitled to.

Also, there is no such thing as a nullsec carebear. Nullsec and carebears are mutually exclusive. You can't be a player who never wants to engage in PvP and live in the regions that allow for the most unrestricted PvP. Not that a true carebear couldn't travel to nullsec, but they can't keep the carebear lifestyle or mindset in nullsec. They adapt of leave, but the end result is that there are no carebears in nullsec.


There is already little reason to hang out in nullsec, so you would have to be a complete idiot to think that making nullsec harder, without any consideration of increasing reward or how no-local works with other w-space mechanics, would make for a better nullsec.

If you no-local guys were honest with yourselves, and honest about how your crap skills are what are holding you back, you could spend your time learning how to catch ratters in nullsec. Because all the time spent arguing for no-local is a pure waste. It will never happen because even CCP is smart enough to know it would completely depopulate nullsec. And no-local won't make you any better at ganking. You'll just move on to complaining that d-scan and gate flashes give free intel.


Quit wasting everyones time. Just cry for a system wide AoE doomsday that fits on a covops frigate. That is the only way your lazy selves are going to get kills.
Mirima Thurander
#358 - 2012-10-26 01:49:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
I see none of u have answered my question yet.

Your ratting in null sec watching local and see a red pop up in local.

What do you do?

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#359 - 2012-10-26 02:21:27 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
svenska flicka wrote:
I did reply, you must have missed it, go back a page.

I do know what I am talking about, right now I enjoy the fact you come across as someone that doesn't Blink

Tell us more, mr "nullsec is completely safe, no really, it's absolutely safe, well okay it's not safe if you don't pay constant attention, but it's still completely safe". I'm sure we're all ears.

Uh huh. I guess they have tons more tales to tell us of how safe it is.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#360 - 2012-10-26 05:28:18 UTC
get rid of local everywhere except when you chat, it is about time. CCP make it so!