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lol, still about 30-40 vulnerable systems. it's deep into day 2, and no "lost" systems yet (today, only three yesterday).

From 2% before the patch, Amarr are now comfortably into Tier 2 with 21.7% and rising... and there are no more vulnerable systems left in the area. 16 Minmatar systems are heavily (over 70%) contested as well.

If the you are not able to capitalize on this, the problem isn't with the new mechanics.

FW IHubs are much easier to take than those in null, it's not really that difficult or time consuming. Taking them out hasn't gotten any more difficult either post patch. I realize the Gallante/Caldari side of this failed to capitalize before the patch, but what's keeping those systems in a vulnerable state now?

Amarr are now at 26.7% and still rising, still steadily taking systems. The other two factions in this don't seem to be doing much of anything. You've apparently had maybe 5 systems change hands (which is good), but the Amarr have taken a couple dozen or more. Both sides are using the same new rules.

With all due respect to the Caldari pilots that are there to fight, it would appear that your side of the conflict was more heavily infested with pure farmers that have cashed out what they can and moved on to greener pastures... now that they can't AFK milk vulnerable complexes for fun and profit at the expense of your faction.

You're better off without them.

Personally, if I were you, I'd make note of every pilot complaining they didn't have enough notice to spike to Tier 5 and cash out. Those are your problem pilots, and I'd keep an eye on them if they actually do stick around for awhile. At least now they will earn their keep defensive plexing for you (keeping/getting your systems out of a vulnerable state), and freeing up the real pilots to kill your enemies and take their systems.

Which forces me to ask CCP once again: Why is it that the sovereign Empires allows hooligans with guns (poddies) to move genocide-scale hardware around and paradrop troops (bridges) freely with no repercussions or costs involved?

Would love to see the diplomatic fallout if the Chinese were to do a sail-by of San Francisco with a battle group unannounced and unasked. The Iranians had to defang a lowly destroyer before they were allowed to even use the suez-canal post Gaddafi ..

Disallow all bridge activity into Empire space.
Remove all offensive and defensive capabilities of supers in Empire space (null wants the logistics option so they can keep that ).

Was thinking that Covert cyno's are different from vanilla ditto and jumping is different from bridging (code perspective), so should be possible to leave one (covert) as is while restricting the other .. but yeah, coverts are a non issue.

Ever tried 'defang'ing' the basic super blob (they are so rarely solo that using it as basis is counterproductive) using only assets available in low-sec? Answer is that you can't, it is simply not possible which leaves only the batphone .. and I for one am not happy with low-sec being treated as a base extension of null.

Remove super immunities and lock down Scarrier drone bays when in Empire .. simple as that. Makes moving super-blobs across the map through Empire a tad more dangerous (effectively risk free as is by using SD cyno alts) and brings the need to think back to the logistics part of military operations as support fleets will only be able to exit low-sec by way of Titan but not enter.

Not relevant to this thread though, so will save it for the Sov 8.0 threads that ought to arrive Soon™.

Question is why to even take those systems? you think that people want to have some better tier to get LP? They do not really want, because LP is pretty much worthless, maybe Amarr is only militia who finds that it is worth it because they never got their tier 5 because of CCP surprise patching.

So now we have situation where gallente and minmatar has most systems when new FW started because CCP wanted to save them by surprise patch, only reason why Caldari or Amarr did not shoot those earlier was that it takes 3 days to shoot those back, so only way to make sure you can have them is to wait until time comes, time that never came on way that you really can adapt.

You still keep claiming that we can take them, sure we can, but there is not reason to take those, but now we are victims of old fw system, because CCP make idiotic game braking FW patches one after one thinking that people do something by their plans. CCP just favors some sides of FW, this patching was clear example about it, they saved those who made most isk out of it anyway, and they gave 100+ systems for them to start getting lp on new FW by defending, leaving other side without last cash up to shoot bunkers without rewards.

Atleast i knew that FW they brought in inferno was horrible alt boost, same is now, i do not see any reason why this could work because CCP thinking about how players think and act is so much out of reality.

If you want ot make steady isk ratting in lowsec is better isk than plexing in FW area.

CCP plans for new FW is driving pvp pilots out of militia leaving only alts to milita.



This means that pirate/neutrals can defend systems, just chase people out, so why to stay in militia, if you are neutral you can dock when you want and still affect FW.

In fw you do everything with buddy alts, pvp is not reality and these new changes do not change that.

Apparently our Finnish friend Bad Messenger is too busy working hard abusing both the war dec mechanic AND the faction warfare mechanics to actually engage in much PVP.

Start reading here to understand why, be sure to read to at least post #52..