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MEGABUMMER, FOZZIE!

I understand the team's reluctance to pay people to lose, essentially - but this just penalizes the one activity that has been claimed will attract new pilots to the underdog in the first place. We've already seen that datacore prices are not really going to be a long-term balancing factor, and the nasty side effect of ending LP price spiking is that you also remove the type of profit that attracted groups like Nulli Secunda to the Amarr. This leaves us with the only type of players interested in enlisting with the underdog being groups like Agony, Fweddit, and Mawr Tears who came for the PvP and the challenge of fighting from a corner, and it essentially penalizes them for participating in the one activity they came to participate in, through no fault of their own. I think its a tremendous missed opportunity for recruitment.

I appreciate you following up with me on this though, and I seriously hope the team keeps an open mind about changing this. Expect to hear about it from me at the summit again, if there hasn't been a change of heart in the mean time.

Yes, replacing the old system where they would get the same LP but the higher tier player would get more value for that LP.

100 VP is 5 plexes.

could the message after finishing a plex mention how much % you contributed to contesting/decontesting a system? The animation of that contesting bar makes it very hard to figure out what actually happened (not to mention that this thing is still buggy and always disappears when you need it most).

VPs are currently somewhat of an "implementation detail". They are mentioned from time to time but you can basically ignore them entirely. A common question of new players is however how much a singe plex contributes to system contesting state or how many of them you need to reach something. That updated message would probably solve that.

Ahhh, so you aren't really concerned with PVP at all. Your only concern is that you might have to share the LP you farm

I think that is just something the farmers are going to have to work out on their own, just like they do now.

Well, I still see some potential problems, mainly in the area of getting enough LP to raise system tiers. But, at this point I don't think its going to be fair to critique things until we actually see it in play.

amarr / minmatar area has only 70 systems when gallente/caladri has 101 systems so shooting 20 systems affects lot of more in amarr/minmatar than in gallente/caldari

Yeah sorry, but prevention of LP theft is secondary to providing maximum pew potential. I'd much rather CCP address that issue by investigating a split-rewards Incursion-style system like Pinky Feldman suggested in his Mittani.com article*, so that not only is LP theft reduced but small gang work isn't penalized, either.

*Meaning that maybe up to 5 people could run a plex and receive equal reward, than it would taper off and split up as the fleet size grew. I'm not necessarily suggesting that LP be only doled out after the whole system is taken.

I don't think many people would have a problem with that.

Perhaps it would be easier to keep straight (if this were done) with a cap based on the size of the plex. 1 pilot max for rookie, 2 pilots for small, etc. before diminishing returns kicks in.

It's not like its difficult info to obtain if you're in the system. Anyone who knows how to D-scan can figure this out by process of elimination. Delaying the location of the plexer only affords them time to escape, and I want the fight to actually happen as often as possible, even if it means saving the scout a few extra scan passes. I'm very serious about escalating the level of PvP risk for those that want to run plexes, and very serious about making it easier to find things to kill in a timely fashion.

If you're not using D-scan, its still stupid to blindly warp into the plex just because you see the timer open. You have no idea what's waiting for you on the inside. It could be a solo frigate, or a tornado fleet. Scouts are still just as essential for optimum security and successful plex capture, all the visible timer does is remove the buffer of safety that the process of elimination provides for those that want to flee at the first sign of danger. Its the exact same reason for moving the timer to the warp-in. Removing the 70km travel burn to reach your destination isn't dumbing the game down, its removing a buffer of safety for those that have no interest in pew.

In the end, skilled pilots will still be able to make "tactical retreats" (while forfeiting the LP as the timer rolls back) even with both a visible timer and the warp-in at zero. You'll just have to be much much more diligent about scanning or better yet, combine your plexing efforts with friends in-system and distribute the workload of handling battlefield intelligence.