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i am disappointed in null sec people. (TL:DR talking about local chat.) read first post.

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Mirima Thurander
#201 - 2012-10-23 15:15:26 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
~terrible pubbie post~


Local is just as useful for the hunters as it is the hunted. Local is not a problem there's no targets because people can't live their. The areas are used as PVP arenas while everyone makes their money in highsec. People have been forced from their homes and into highsec. All you've done in your post is shown that you have no idea what the problems are and are incredibly naive.

So lets go over the problems:

1. Risk : reward has been trashed to cosset highsec (Mining barge EHP buff, aside from Skiff),

2. Sov is broken/terrible,

3. UI is getting better but could still use more work (less spreadsheets more spaceships).

Fix those and you solve the majority of the problems the game has.



Look kids this is what's called a.trollolol.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Robert De'Arneth
#202 - 2012-10-23 15:19:54 UTC
I am still trying to figure out how removing local increases the targets? Anyone? Please?

I'm a nerd, you can check my stats!! Skilling Int/Mem at 45 sp per minute is how I mack!     I'm like a lapdog, all bark no bite. 
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#203 - 2012-10-23 15:27:58 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
I am still trying to figure out how removing local increases the targets? Anyone? Please?

By the power of wishful thinking.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#204 - 2012-10-23 16:01:51 UTC
Local should be a sov upgrade.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#205 - 2012-10-23 16:48:32 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
You cry for more targets but then will not remove your greatest foe LOCAL chat.

Some want it removed. It most like it for its ease of Intel gathering.

And now to the main point.

How can u be such a Carebear and need ccp to keep local so you feel safe. Knowing you have your instant intel ever time you jump in system.


And dont even say if there was only a better way to get intel.

You have probes, combat probes, deep space probes, and D-Scan.
If you dont know how they work ask Your wh dwelling friends about there combat scanning.

Local is the tool of the weak minded sheep of null sec. You should be ashamed of your self.


Just head of any more LOOK AT HOW SAFE WHs ARE its not the lack of.locals.the the whs that you use to get around.






Let me play out a eve with out local.

You jump into system no one knows your there.

You drop probes and start scanning.

You see a ratting carrier and a few other ships on scan.

They havent ran becouse theres no local to let them know u jumped in system.


I find your post.... poorly thought out....

Have you ever taken a 15-40 man gang out looking for a fight?? I'm not talking about a gank, I'm talking about a fight.... You need to be able to find systems with an appropriate number of pilots in order to actually get that fight! Local helps get a fight then...

Have you ever tried to rat for isk in nullsec? It's not some huge major isk source to "most" nullsec residents. So, if you take away the primary source of defense for ratters, how long do you think they will continue to rat, when a stealthbomber can decloak and tackle them before they can even hit the warp button... (not to mention the rest of their gang that could be cloaked on grid with you).

In short, I'm all about changing local... but it needs to be replaced with a viable intel tool.... not combat scanner probes and carpel tunnel syndrome *dscan*. Additionally, the rewards of nullsec need to also be balanced with the risks of operating there.... otherwise FW plexes, LvL 4 Missions, and highsec incursions will really be the only place to make money, and nullsec will still be dead...

Finally, WH space is very different than nullspace... . The gates (WH's) into Wspace can be closed moreless at will.... allowing corps to make their space safe before operating in it. Additionally, thanks to sleeper's ai... sleeper farmers are far more capable at fending off incoming PvP threats...
Mirima Thurander
#206 - 2012-10-23 23:32:54 UTC
U know every time someone says I use local for X, and its not chatting you provided Local is being used in the wrong way.
Local was never mint to be a intel tool, your head dev has said as much in a video dev blog a while back.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#207 - 2012-10-23 23:34:21 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
U know every time someone says I use local for X, and its not chatting you provided Local is being used in the wrong way.
Local was never mint to be a intel tool, your head dev has said as much in a video dev blog a while back.


There is a lot of features that have uses that weren't intended by CCP. What's your point?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#208 - 2012-10-24 00:37:33 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
U know every time someone says I use local for X, and its not chatting you provided Local is being used in the wrong way.
Local was never mint to be a intel tool, your head dev has said as much in a video dev blog a while back.

There is a lot of features that have uses that weren't intended by CCP. What's your point?

Exploiting bugs ~~

Nerf local ~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#209 - 2012-10-24 02:42:26 UTC
Remove local and let ships warp system to system without gates and this game becomes everything the leet PVPers already act like it is.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Mirima Thurander
#210 - 2012-10-24 03:12:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mirima Thurander
We can remove local and u can have your Sov upgrade local, BUT it has to require industry 5 to work.


Best keep a fleet of miners out there keeping it up.

This way u get your local only if u work your space.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#211 - 2012-10-24 04:18:09 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
We can remove local and u can have your Sov upgrade local, BUT it has to require industry 5 to work.


Best keep a fleet of miners out there keeping it up.

This way u get your local only if u work your space.

Hahahahahahahahaha

Not Strategic Index V, no, that wouldn't work for the trolling. Or Military Index V.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#212 - 2012-10-24 06:09:44 UTC  |  Edited by: svenska flicka
make local same as every where, if talk you show up if not you wont.

EVE is suppose to be a vast universe dark and mysterious, now it is dotlan.
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#213 - 2012-10-24 06:32:56 UTC
Personally, I am disappointed in the community for making this troll thread 11 pages long.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#214 - 2012-10-24 06:37:08 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Personally, I am disappointed in the community for making this troll thread 11 pages long.

Every time I think to myself 'must be a troll, nobody can be this dumb' I have to stop and remind myself just what forum I'm reading.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#215 - 2012-10-24 06:42:52 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
Personally, I am disappointed in the community for making this troll thread 11 pages long.

Every time I think to myself 'must be a troll, nobody can be this dumb' I have to stop and remind myself just what forum I'm reading.



I want local as a tool of intel gone from the game and I am not a troll!!
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#216 - 2012-10-24 06:44:16 UTC
Robert De'Arneth wrote:
I am still trying to figure out how removing local increases the targets? Anyone? Please?

It will, for about 3 days until all the nullsec ratters think 'yeah, screw this, I'm heading back to highsec L4s'.

And then all you have left in 0.0 is the occasional moon mining tower and gangs of stealth bombers and recons blundering around in the darkness in the futile hope there might be something to shoot this time.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
#217 - 2012-10-24 08:02:13 UTC
Change local to constellation wide.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#218 - 2012-10-24 08:07:56 UTC
Witchking Angmar wrote:
Change local to constellation wide.

"Please mister CCP, cover up for my inability to catch ratters."

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
svenska flicka
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#219 - 2012-10-24 09:48:04 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Witchking Angmar wrote:
Change local to constellation wide.

"Please mister CCP, cover up for my inability to catch ratters."



"Please mister CCP, make it so I can rat without any risk at all."
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#220 - 2012-10-24 09:50:14 UTC
svenska flicka wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Witchking Angmar wrote:
Change local to constellation wide.

"Please mister CCP, cover up for my inability to catch ratters."

"Please mister CCP, make it so I can rat without any risk at all."

They're doing that through crimewatch 2.0, what more do you want?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat