Player Features and Ideas Discussion

awww but you see you must blend in you must be part of the local my young padawon. you are a tree in the forest.

He even sounds like one too.
"Here they come to predictably explain why I'm wrong. These fools. Never mind that their position actually makes a hell of a lot more sense than mine."

Explain.

"Facts" and "Evidence" are a Liberal Plot To Destroy America Small Gang PvP.

Do any of you know why local even was part of the game to start with?

To provide a social option like an irc chat room. But eve has moved beyond the need.of.a.local chat room with corp channels and private channels.vents and ts. Mumble jabber and skype.

There's no need for it and ever one that's defended it has used the same old dry responses hidden behind a wall of text and boils down to local makes me safe so I want to keep it.

That's the resion it needs to be removed from null. Your not safe in less you can make it safe.
Why do you feel the need for Instant Intel?

Why do 90% of all null sec dwellers run and dock as soon as they see a mute jump In system?

Any argument that has I use local for x, and that reasion ends up being something besides.talking to.friends Is a unintended use of local.

So make all you arguments you want local.was ment for chating NOT as a intel tool.

Your argument ignores the consequences of removing local, which is exactly what we've been telling you. You don't want to hear it, obviously.

Are you mad you can't find people to kill in nullsec? Your combat record would seem to suggest as much.

Why do 90% of all wormhole dwellers run and dock as soon as they d-scan one of my probes?
The choice is clear - introduce wormhole stabilizers and remove free cynojamming so that wormhole players can enjoy some gfs.

Indeed, my internet connection isn't stable enough to AFK cloak for more than an hour . Also, could ECM be reworked to jam local?

If I had my way, it'd be called a cloak. Thanks for your concessions.

Oh, I see. You don't want to remove local, you want to remove local as an intel gathering tool for everyone else whilst being able to still use it as an intel gathering tool yourself.


A much more reasonable solution has been put forward elsewhere: you don't show in local until your gatecloak wears off. Combine that with a much higher rate of warp acceleration and deceleration for smaller ships (perhaps related to the ship's mass, or agility modifier), and the window of opportunity to say 'crap, neutral in local, better warp off to safety' before the frigate scout gets a point on you is much reduced.

Removing local outright, or 'delayed' local ,which are effectively the same thing, simply moves the majority of the ratting and mining targets back to the safety of Empire, turns 0.0 combat into groups of people stumbling around blindly in the darkness and occasionally bumping into each other, makes roaming gangs a tedious exercise of re-probing at every jump (especially since there'll be far fewer ratters and miners out there to gank in the first place), and turns wider 0.0 habitation and combat into a one-dimensional 'covops cloak or don't bother' arena.