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Idea - How to make, currently useless, FoF and Defender missiles better.

Author
Robin Toman
Sraer Jik
#1 - 2012-10-18 11:05:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Robin Toman
A. FoF missiles
I think sizes are fine but they have one thing which makes them useless.
They needs to shot only those SHIPs, which currently attacking you or was attacking one minute before, they should NOT attack drones anymore... that makes them MUCH more viable as counter for ECM or Remote Sensor Dampening.


B. Defender missiles
They are currently most useless thing in the game. I suggest to make them stronger but balanced.
Defenders needs to be capable of destroying more than just a one rocket.
One Defender missile will be a swarm of small rockets and every single rocket will deal its own dmg to target. So one swarm of these defender missiles may destroy a single Torpedo or two-three heavy missiles or five-six light missiles (needs some more balance but basically bigger and stronger target for Defenders = less missiles destroyed by one shot)

New Launcher just for defender missiles... other types of launchers will be not able to use them anymore. This new launcher will have similar PWG and CPU requirements as Rapid Light Missile Launcher so destroyers and frigs cannot fit it but cruiser or bigger class can.

Defender missile specialization with new Tech 2. Defenders.
1.type for more damage for more incoming missiles destroyed but with less range than tech 1.
2.type will attack (only) drones... not make them overpowered, they should be capable of killing small drone after few hits and after some time a medium drone but heavy drone should be really hard to kill with these type of missiles... and anyway they will probably not hit same drone twice or three times in a row when theres 5 drones attacking you.


So guys what you think ?
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-10-18 16:12:09 UTC
Specialized missile against drones?

Probably caldari would do this....

Althoug... the signature radius of drones are too big now... they should be reduced or it would render drones 100% useles... oh wait they are already 75% useles... and will be nerfd against NPCS... as they will target drones now...
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#3 - 2012-10-18 18:26:52 UTC
It's been a very long time since I used them. A different, older account. I remember I had to activate it to launch a defender missile and it would only work if there was a missile in range of it and I would have to do it for each time I was attacked.

Have they changed that at all? That's what really made'em suck.

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Excidium.
#4 - 2012-10-18 20:19:07 UTC
This op seems a bit lame as the only time fof missiles have ever been useful for me was when they killed ecm drones (ok one time i used them vs a frig blob with kitsunes to great effect but usually its ecm drones), and they are great for this. Similarly the only time defenders have ever been useful for me was on a hero tackler interceptor.

Really the problem with fofs is the low damage. Defenders are far more deeply broken. Pretty much any way to make them work as they should (i.e. defenders go after any missiles launched at you regardless of who has who locked or selected) would be catastrophic for server performance in any but the smallest fights. They would need to rework it entirely. If they did it could be amazing though.