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To be fair actually, I think you're probably setting too much store by the idea that all corporations have a plan. If I asked my corp CEO where he wants the corp to be in 12 months he could tell me. If I asked him how he was going to get there I'd probably get the verbal equivalent of a shrug.

I actually quite like the idea of a Bounty Hunting corp, if we look at it using the current system:

Corp has 50 or so members, only about 15-20 are active and the rest are alts. I could take all the tax from corp bounties and offer them as incentives to my "employees" of the people at the end of the month with the most bounties claimed. Or the people who claimed the most bounties off the top 10 list. Or I could just pay an addition set amount for each bounty claimed from the Top 10 list. Or I could get other players to pay our corp and then I'd add THAT lump sum onto a specific person's already existing bounty paid directly to my members, example:

Player A has a 500mil bounty but only ever flies 100mil ships. This means the players will only ever make 100mil per kill. Say it's split 3 ways you're going to get like 33mil each. If I say i'll pay an addition 30mil to the first bounty claimed it means the first one will actually make them 43mil each, if I just added it onto the bounty it would STILL only make 33mil.

If I was running such a corp I wouldn't assign bounties to people, I'd post a list of people the corp has kill rights for and let them go for it however they wanted. Besides, the only advantage the current system has it hat, in theory, your corp can't plan some sort of attack, however the reality is we could easily do that anyway by simply making sure we all turn up in the same fleet as if we activate a killright the player doesn't know we have a small gang can easily kill him before most others have locked and figured out WTH is going on.

If there are coding constraints that prevent that, then that's fair enough. In my own opinion though I don't think ruling out corp kill rights is necessarily a good idea. If players have the option (eventually) to sell killrights on an open market, to assign them to individuals or to assign them to corps I think that leaves a wide range of options.



I don't know if this is possible, but is it at all possible to have the killrights in a similar way to bookmarks? You can contract them to other people etc, I think that would be a good work around.

From what I can tell (as things stand) if I see Player X has the top bounty, am I able to see if they have a kill right to buy without being next to them in space? If so do I buy the kill right and activate it whenever I want?

Also as well, I think the advantage of a public killright marketplace would be that say I'm a anti-pirate or whatever, I could just buy a load of kill rights off the market place and go around shooting them all as there may be a lot of people with a kill right but not a bounty.

It means you can basically pay for PvP in High Sec.

Your main reason for wanting the suspect flag was so people could get help with killing someone with a killright on, yes? Mainly from friends correct?

And reason why you can't limit it to only fleet members is because crimewatch isn't designed for that kind of limited Engagement...

So my final suggestion is to only make it limited Engagement... 1v1 until you find a way to make a fleet help... not everyone nearby

Once we add the option to limit who can buy (activate) the kill right, this will definitely include a corp option, i.e. I could set it so that a kill right I own could only be activated by a member of corp X.

Our long term vision is to improve the Most Wanted list to become more of an intelligence tool for bounty hunters to find potential targets. But that is a bit further out and it's uncertain at this stage when or if we get to that. So, kill right information will not be part of the winter release, but something similar could happen later on. In any case, it's unlikely that kill right purchases will be made through that interface, but could link to negotiating with the owner for exclusivity.

You've got the ordering wrong there, unless it's for technical reasons (which it doesn't seem to be). Suspect flag should be the LAST option you'd want to use. This falls into the same vein as war decs: I'm paying for a target, potentially with a bounty on their head, why the **** would I want everyone and their mother, including my target, able to shoot the target and possibly remove the kill right?

Regarding bounty hunting not being a corporate goal, well, puff puff give, man, I want whatever you're smoking!

This feels exactly like a case where you all make this certain new mechanic and then are like "wouldn't it be cool to use this for EVERYTHING?" Instead of trying to find something that is playable.

The problem with this is that the only way to start these social activities outside a corporation is to blindly search for like-minded people. You can stalk your target and be careful to activate your kill rights where only you can benefit, but you're not going to get any pick-up allies that way. You can turn someone into Public Enemy #1 by activating kill rights somewhere crowded and watching the feeding frenzy, but that's not a social activity, that's twenty or more people seeing someone suddenly turn into a walking killmail and getting in on the action.

I think you'd see people gravitating together for impromptu roams through hisec to ruin someone's day far more if you start with something a little more restricted and only open it up like this once you have the tools in place to allow people to easily band together outside of a corporation and find targets quickly.

So, the intention is for public killrights to be 100% completely useless for this release (except as a blackmail tool, but that sounds pretty pathetic.) That clarifies it. It's pretty sad that the plan for this is to be a failure out of the box, with a "maybe someday we'll get around to fixing it." It's good to know, even if it is sad that you're content with releasing something broken, with no plan in place to fix it at all. No wonder you don't have any metrics to (i.e. before and after) to show if the system was a waste of time to develop.

Having the names of those that place bounties public would not tell you who actually placed the bounty. The real bounty placer would just hide behind an alt.

Yep... suspect flag doesn't lead to any social activity. It leads to someone following targets around / and or sitting outside trade hubs and activating FFA flags for "lolmails" and "local grief". This is far from working bounty hunting mechanism and won't provide anything positive to those who actually would like to hunt bounties for profession like they were meant to..

You don't need to be rocket scientist to realize that the activity above will gather all the "opportunists" outside trade hubs / major gates waiting that people get FFA flag and the ganking starts. Fastest one get the bounty.

Fun? Social? Give me a break.

Wartargets are legal targets: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63443/1/logo2_actions2flags.png

And the answer to your question about what a killright is intended to be, it's clearly b).