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oi... you lot... YES YOU THERE @ CCP

you wanna stop circumventing my mates years of hard work on http://www.triad-eve.net/pandora/indexzz3.php
he's been offering isk and LP for kills against enemies for ages now and u buggers keep making his hard work redundant @_@


he let me off the leash to bark at you... now i gotta get back in my box :(

Nice to see this finally getting updated, it's long overdue (nearly a decade now). Good stuff tho.

* Buyable killrights is something we players requested since launch of this game, it's long loooong overdue, and you could never have added changes to the bountysystem without adding this. Good that you did. While tying it to the CW-update has some benefits (personally I like that you can do it on the fly, in space), it also has risks - currently if someone has killrights on you, you could easily add them to address book and/or keep an eye out while travelling. With the new system..
- how/will there be any kind of indication for the bad guy, that a killright on him has been sold? Let's just make it clear, I like that there's "more" consequences, but this effectively locks people out 100% from even a quick answering-phone session, anyone with killrights on him must 100% dock or cloak up everytime anything might interrupt him, at all, especially in highsec. It's quite a major change.

* The bounty pool, and payout as portion of isk value, seems like a damn good solution to many potential exploits. Expanding it to corp, alliances, and (in the future) specific structures is really nice.

Tho, here comes the critisism:

* How will anything of this make "bounty hunter" a viable career choice in EVE? The only thing that allows you to hunt down people is the buyable killrights system, which obviously has some limits. You'd have to basicly have an updated asset-like list that show people where the potentially targets is, which in itself would be bad because it virtually would be more powerful than locator agents. But a bounty-hunter would need to know where there is targets, he'd have to move ships, possibly scout the target (especially if he's not in highsec), etc. I.e. this is far far from newbie friendly, and a good waste of time for an older player.

* And the effect of this is that it effectively makes the "leaderboard" and 'see old bounty claims' essentially.. useless. The only people you'll see on top of those lists is highsec wardeccers (Jita campers etc), and possibly lowsec vultures preying on their own. You won't see any players dedicated to this at all. Which is a shame, I'd love to actually give it a shot myself, but it needs an intel tool.. and same time it needs to not be too powerful either. Extremely delayed, or just a plain list of names and we'd have to locate and do all research etc ourselves. Billboards won't cut it, and CQ frankly is a really ****** idea, not a single player I know has that stuff turned on as it's zero-content and just slowing down ship-swapping, as is. You need an ingame tool, like the market or map.

There's more to it, but that's the more important stuff, and a starters. You have made a decent platform, but really, you need to work on the intel tool, and it would be nice with a clarification on how the guy being hunted will have updates about his present situation..

Owhhh, thats totally not gona be explited :P

You set up a bait char with handy stock of kill rights and enough bounty on his head that killing him in expensive ship will not pay it all (just enough for that one kill)

now you arrange for kill rights on him on your alt (easy to do)

now you set a trap - place bait char in some visible place, with a cloak and posibly aligned toward safe spot, with kill right on sale for 10% of bounty payout, and the moment you get suspect (someone bought killright) you cloak and/or warp away to safe spot (and then cloak) or just dock - rince and repeat

Is there a plan to eventually make KR's function with the contract system? Since items are all on market now I think this is the chance to re purpose the contract system for services, things like contract killings, courier(already there), rental agreements and whatnot.

I only ask because I was hoping the new KR xfer system would foster more solo PVP but as is it just fosters more blob mechanics as everyone can attack a person whose KR is activated. If a market were opened up to buy and sell KR's I think it will be way more fun.

Also I think theres been some confusion as to how KR's are awarded. Is it going to be similar to the current system where they are awarded on a podding in low/high, or in high when someone kills another pilot who doesn't fight back? Some people think that KR's are going to be awarded on anyone who agresses anyone regardless of whether a kill is made or not.

This post needs more attention.

HOOOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY CCP!!

I HART U NAOW!

Yes I get it.

Bounty: 1b
Freighter: 1b
Bounty Reward: 1b * 20% = 200m
Platinum Insurance: 1b * 70% = 700m [Pays 100% and costs 30%]

1. Alt kills freighter and gets 200m bounty. Insurance pays me 700m. My loss: 1b - 200m - 700m = 100m.
2. Repeat step #1 four more times. Loss: 500m (less actually thanks to salvage). Bounty gone.

Ergo, let me pay to remove the bounty

[Of course insurance is not in step with market prices, but the basic idea is the same.]

How many agree that this "activate killright, receive bacon" is a bad idea as it is suggested, please give feedback...

I strongly believe it shouldn't just give suspect flag so every single pilot in eve can attack the person, I think it should be limited to only the fleet the person activating the killright

I don't suggest this because I am a high sec ganker (at least not much anymore) I suggest this because it would give richer gameplay, otherwise the guy with the kill right can simply follow their target around and constantly activating it, without having to engage themselves until someone else kills him... the way I suggest you actually have to either sell it, do it yourself or have a fleet as backup...

CCP you said it yourself that the reason for the suspect flag was so friends could help... them why not just make it so the fleet can help LE... don't simplify crimewatch too much... all or nothing is too much

Actually, I build my own freighters and other ships, so I get them at cost.

True though, for those that buy their ships their out-of-pocket loss is a bit higher.

The other point is, there is a guaranteed payout of over 200m on an empty freighter. Add in 1b of cargo and say 50% drops, then that same freighter is worth (1b + 1b * 50%) * 20% = 300m bounty reward, add 500m cargo dropped = 800m to gank that freighter.

Thanks for the dev blog CCP.

But one thing that is worth mentioning that I don't like one bit: it will be able to place a bounty on anyone.

Now, I know that the -1.0 sec rating doesn't work. 0.0 sec players that rat usually end up with high sec ratings and bounties should be placed on those players as well if others want to do it. But you are also targeting the neutrals, the high-sec dwellers, the PvE specialists roaming incursions. These players are potential targets as well, which is a problem. This could lead to grief-issues.

A group does an incursion, but one rich player player/corp, not part of the fleet suddenly puts a bounty on one of the fleet members and bang, he becomes a target while the fleet may need to rely on his skills/knowledge to see the incursion being run successfully.

As such, one additional rule needs to be added:
Bounties can not be placed on NPC alliances, corporations, or their members. This can not be used to escape bounties as such. If a player in a player corp acquires a bounty on top of his head, it will remain active even if he joins an npc corp later.

To make things fair and square. Players that are part of an NPC corporation/alliance can not acquire kill-rights, even if they are targeted in high-sec. They are part of an NPC corporation that acts as protector, but also as constrictor. If you stay in an NPC corp, you are safe, but you can not reap the benefits of being able to sell kill-rights either.