EVE General Discussion

Overall - standardizing rule enforcement is a good thing but this? ...

The bug you mention should be fixed. Then again, a lot of stuff with wardec's could use a revamp. IMO - this change is bad form on CCP's part - droping restrictions on exploits BEFORE fixing the bugs? That's just asking for abuses to occur.

I don't mind the ability of a corporation to scrape off a war by joining alliances and leaving. That's little different than jumping into a gatecamp of blues then warping out with someone chasing you. The only fix here might be to attach ISK costs for a corporation leaving an alliance while in a war. They must pay out the equivalent of all wars currently in place against that alliance - something along these lines. Whine else where about a smart CEO's "navigation" abilities but, again, that bug you mention needs fixing. Running away should allow for chasing and this is prevented with that bug.

I do mind the fact that corporations can stack up fake wardecs while avoiding the costs due abuse of game mechanics and CCP's unwillingness to fix that.

My opinion on the subject is simple: If you want protection and are willing to pay for it - fine. Alts + wardec yourself as much as you can afford. Avoiding the costs while gaining the benefits, that's bad. Yes - deep pockets can "buy protection" but they'll need to pay for it and keep paying or that protection goes away. Spend towards the ISK sinks freely, that helps the overall economy.

In accordance with CCP's wishes we have founded a new service for all corporations: DEC SHIELD

Corporations may join and leave the alliance at a cost of 50mil per join and wipe their wardecs off upon us. More details available here.

Damn! beat me to it lol


Only question now is... will CCP retract this "ruling" before you make your 1B isk back for making said alliance

I just feel that CCP's decision is pointless if it makes it possible to make declaring war a financial disaster for the attacker - one could talk weeks about what costs would be appropriate, but being able to rise it in the way that EVE UNI does it now (and other alliances can, as well, if they bother) just looks *wrong*.

I mean, seriously, why have a mechanism in the game if you then accept it that people can completely bypass it...

I don't like this policy change at all - how is anyone supposed to undertake a high sec war now?

This is incongruous with your desires. Since you're "pro Incarna" and think CCP should develop their efforts there, shouldn't wardecs be allowed as an incentive to stay docked, and explore the features?

Troll consistently tbh.

Sorry, why shouldn't it be a potential financial disaster for the attacker, just like it is a potential financial disaster for the defender?

Same goes for you HI-Sec POS bash whiners, what's stopping you? NOTHING!

Sack up the cash and go do it, only now YOU risk it being a possible financial disaster too, just like the poor sod who's POS your about to TRY and gank. No more 50 million chump change war-dec's to bash a couple billion worth of POS!

FACT: The vast majority of EVE players remain in highsec.

FACT: EVE has more PVE content than PVP content.

You can infer from the above that the vast majority of EVE players are more apt to be mission running, building things, trading on the market, and just generally futzing about in Empire.

If these 'carebears' are prevented from doing what it is they're signing on to do - they will not sign on. If they don't sign on for a long enough period, it follows that the likelihood of them retaining a subscription is low. Given that this is the largest segment of the playerbase, it's not a sustainable practice.

I'm not anti-PVP by any means - but I am anti douche-baggery. Remove killmails (outside of wardecs) and nuke that whole meta-game from orbit.

I would say you should post your ideas but you are no doubt too embarrassed to do it and have resorted to low grade trolling instead. Seriously, post what you think wars should be about as this might be the only chance you get in the next five years.

The carebears ideas are all "increase war costs. the end" so dont whine to me when my ideas are implemented because they are so god damn suave and actually address the problems.



At least try to come up with something new. You so have to be an eve university alt.

The current Pay to Grief™ system is not an incentive to declare war against people who can defend with, you know, ships. Pick targets that can legitimately fight back, and perhaps they will. Pick targets that are easy prey, and they'll use the cheapest, easiest means at their disposal to be rid of you.