Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yea i like the ideas of these ships however i cant help thinking the Caldari ship is missing a mid slot, currently it would have to sacrifice almost all tank to just fit a point and prop mod. 7 lauchers would still give it a nice amount of volley with light missiles enough to make most frigates scream so maybe drop one high for a mid or only have 1 low slot.

Id also like to see the same on the galente destroyer aswell, traditionally the galente drone boats have a few mids for range control where as this one has 2 useless high slots id like to see -1 high + 1 mid or low

You fly these babys with a tackler and you'll scare the living daylights out of the FW plexers.

I like the high, mid swap, I also like it to it fit Rapid assault missile launchers, in other words 4 mids will make it a monster. if you want more mids take a Caracal.

The Thrasher is the best destroyer hull in the game in my opinion, and I don't think the new ships will change that. For pure DPS application in missions or PVP, nothing beats an AC-fitted Thrasher. It can even mount a reasonable tank with a DCUII in one of the lows. The Catalyst is also great for close-in work. The Cormorant is...okay. It's a good sniping ship with rails, can mount a decent tank, and makes a great salvaging boat. (In fact, that's all I've ever used a Cormorant for -- they're a far cheaper salvaging solution than the Noctis, and do just as good a job unless you have a ton of salvage to pick up.) Then you have the poor Coercer bringing up the rear.

The problem with the Coercer is that the single midslot makes it useless for pretty much any role: it can't fit both a prop and a tackle for close-in engagements; it can't shield-tank; it can't fit any mid-slot utility modules worth mentioning. The cargo bay is too small (and I'm sorry to see that they've still gimped the new one with a 300m3 cargo bay too) making it undesirable as a cargo hauler or salvager. Adding another midslot to the Coercer would finally bring it up to par with the existing dessies, IMO.

And as a pure damage-projector, the Coercer really only came into its own with T2 lasers and crystals, which isn't exactly noob-friendly.

That would be interesting except as a new player when I signed up first thing I saw was "Gallente specialize in drones" and I was saying to myself: "Yeah, that sounds right up my alley!". Only to find out when you are a few months into the game and actually understand ship bonuses that Amarr are the true drone kings?

Does not make much sense or fun.

As you work your way up in ship/drone bay size the Gallante begin to excel in Drone damage... while Amarr tend to keep Drone flexibility.

In the smaller boats its wiser to think of them as having Hybrids as their primary weapons system with Drones as a strong back up, just as Amarr have lasers as their primary with drones (often utility) as back up with a touch of missile use to justify the Khanid line.

Both Gallante and Amarr tend to frequently use Nos/Neuts, but Amarr specialize in this while generalizing in various drone type usage.

I will admit, I would like to see more division between the way Amarr and Gallante are bonused as far as Drone use. Perhaps Amarr should have bonuses with certain EW and utility drones (retaining their larger bays) while Gallante are the only ones to gain combat bonuses with them.

Is anyone else not worried by the fact most of these destroyers will get outrun by most of the cruisers?
MWD speed should be 1km/s faster for everything destroyer size and smaller.

Amarr should be called-adept
Caldari - basilisk
Idk about the other two

Ya just saw it. Going threw data base lol. I'll come up with something lol

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sure they do, its called, deploying a single sentry.