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LtCol Laurentius

The Imperial Sardaukar

Likes received: 168

#141 - 2012-09-28 20:32:47 UTC | Edited by: LtCol Laurentius

Liang Nuren wrote:

LtCol Laurentius wrote:

Liang Nuren wrote:

The Caldari destroyer gets almost 80% more alpha than today's AML Caracal, and applies it better as well. It also gets really fantastic range, which means that it's able to take advantage of the full range of overheated bonused point range.

I cannot overstate how powerful this ship is going to be.

-Liang

45 PWG

It's not really that big of a deal.

-Liang

Well you need to fill the lows with MAPCs to fit a afterburner and ASB, and you can pretty much forget a MSE unless you use the rigslots as well. One MAPC is certainly acceptable, but I still think the fitting is a bit anemic.

School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 35
Joshua Lonestar School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State Likes received: 35	#142 - 2012-09-28 20:35:46 UTC 1 I may have missed it here (Or elsewhere)... So its safe to assume Caldari ships wont be moving from a bonus to kinetic damage?

Brave Empire Inc. Brave United 103
Martin0 Brave Empire Inc. Brave United Likes received: 103	#143 - 2012-09-28 20:43:17 UTC 2 I've lost all hopes that CCP will make gallente ships decents. I think i can't have all the SP i used into gallente and hybrids back, can i?

The Scope Gallente Federation 15
Loganks The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 15	#144 - 2012-09-28 20:54:01 UTC 5 The Gallente Destroyer needs a larger drone bay. Not to replace drones, but for drone flexibility, fielding different drones for different damage types and potentially ewar. If this is a drone frigate, its already kind of botched.

University of Caille Gallente Federation 3,623
Omnathious Deninard University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 3,623	#145 - 2012-09-28 20:56:52 UTC 3 I never trained destroyers, due to I use drones and there was no drone destroyer. Guess I still won't train destroyers If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

WTF Bunnies 27
Lavitakus Bromier WTF Bunnies Likes received: 27	#146 - 2012-09-28 21:01:20 UTC 1 Ya 2 mids on amarr kills it. It does less damage and has no ability to catch anything. You can either out run it or warp away from it. That was a main issue with coer.

Lighting the blight 215
Sheynan Lighting the blight Likes received: 215	#147 - 2012-09-28 21:03:29 UTC more mids on the Amarr one and it will really step onto the Sentinel, it's fine as it is.

MeBiatch

GRR GOONS

Likes received: 2,108

#148 - 2012-09-28 21:05:18 UTC | Edited by: MeBiatch

the gal drone ship i want to see

GALLENTE DESTROYER:

Ship bonuses:
+10% to drone damage and HP per level
+1 max active drone per level
Role bonus:
+50% small hybrid turret optimal range
Slot layout: 5H, 3 M, 4 L, 4 turrets
Fittings: 60 PWG, 150 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800 / 850 / 950
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 550 / 350s / 1.57s
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 240 / 2.45 / 1800000 / 4.46s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 75
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 42km / 500 / 7
Sensor strength: 11 magnetometric
Signature radius: 72
Cargo capacity: 350

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Lavitakus Bromier WTF Bunnies Likes received: 27	#149 - 2012-09-28 21:09:29 UTC Ya I want a OP death machine also.

Omnathious Deninard

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 3,623

#150 - 2012-09-28 21:12:13 UTC

MeBiatch wrote:

I'm worried about server overload with this easy of a ship to get into and 10 drones. It would be better with a good damage bonus and drone tracking bonus

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

MeBiatch

GRR GOONS

Likes received: 2,108

#151 - 2012-09-28 21:14:54 UTC | Edited by: MeBiatch

Omnathious Deninard wrote:

MeBiatch wrote:

I'm worried about server overload with this easy of a ship to get into and 10 drones. It would be better with a good damage bonus and drone tracking bonus

tidi can handle it fine... and its still a hassle to train all the stuff up to v to take advantage of the potential dps...

edit:

well either that or make it 20% to damage and HP per lev
and add a 7.5% to tracking per lev...

take away the turret bonus...
and reduce to something like 3 turrets that can be used...

this is the raw dps you are looking for...

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Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 2,014
Tyberius Franklin Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,014	#152 - 2012-09-28 21:19:16 UTC MeBiatch wrote: tidi can handle it fine... Invoking tidi unnecessarily seems like a bad idea.

Hannott Thanos

Squadron 15

Likes received: 868

#153 - 2012-09-28 21:19:42 UTC

CCP Ytterbium wrote:

Zarnak Wulf wrote:

Gallente - kill the hybrid damage bonus. Give it a hybrid tracking bonus instead. Give it a fifth turret slot (4 * 1.25 = 5 anyways). It's CPU is too weak to consider drone upgrades in those two spare highs anyways.

Hmmm interesting, that's one way of putting it - it negates tracking issues with rails and give the boat some love. We'll have another math run at this after the week-end. Keep the constructive comments coming people.

Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaainz

Since we are thinking out of the box on these destroyers...

Ship bonuses:
+10% to drone HP per level
+5% to drone damage per level
Role bonus:
Can fit Drone Control Units (reduced fitting cost)
Slot layout: 5 H, 3 M, 3 L, 0 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 55 PWG, 150 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800 / 850 / 950
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 550 / 350s / 1.57s
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 240 / 2.45 / 1800000 / 4.46s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 / 50
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 42km / 500 / 7
Sensor strength: 11 magnetometric
Signature radius: 72
Cargo capacity: 350

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

_myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}

Harvey James

The Sengoku Legacy

Likes received: 1,267

#154 - 2012-09-28 21:19:51 UTC

MeBiatch wrote:

Omnathious Deninard wrote:

MeBiatch wrote:

I'm worried about server overload with this easy of a ship to get into and 10 drones. It would be better with a good damage bonus and drone tracking bonus

the real problem of drone boats are getting enough effective dps and then hoping it doesn't get killed before you can stop it from happening

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using

Caldari Provisions Caldari State 572
Jack bubu Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 572	#155 - 2012-09-28 21:22:10 UTC Lavitakus Bromier wrote: Ya 2 mids on amarr kills it. It does less damage and has no ability to catch anything. You can either out run it or warp away from it. That was a main issue with coer. try running away with no cap.

MeBiatch

GRR GOONS

Likes received: 2,108

#156 - 2012-09-28 21:22:35 UTC

Hannott Thanos wrote:

CCP Ytterbium wrote:

Zarnak Wulf wrote:

i like it... its all or nothing dps... like it should be...

you warp like a fool presto... no more dps...

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Ministry of War Amarr Empire 210
Tanaka Aiko Ministry of War Amarr Empire Likes received: 210	#157 - 2012-09-28 21:24:16 UTC 3 the caldari has more speed than the gallente one ?! and the amarr seems better than the gallente. I feel that, again, gallente ship will be a niche thing...

Hannott Thanos

Squadron 15

Likes received: 868

#158 - 2012-09-28 21:30:47 UTC

Tanaka Aiko wrote:

the caldari has more speed than the gallente one ?!
and the amarr seems better than the gallente.
I feel that, again, gallente ship will be a niche thing...

I think that's fine here because of drones being main dps.

However, this Gallente destroyer needs something added to it I feel. Maybe a flight of 10 drones, who knows, but it needs something...

while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) {

_myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget);

}

Doddy

Excidium.

Likes received: 966

#159 - 2012-09-28 21:34:32 UTC

Deornoth Drake wrote:

Omnathious Deninard wrote:

The new amarr ship is going to be a better drone boat than the gallente one

The new minmatar ship is going to be a better missile boat than the caldari one.

CCP removes the single damage bonus on one ship, just to grant it on another ship!
Why not just give that damange bonus for all damage types, like you do it for the minmatar one.

edit: I just compared those two ships together, not all four

Pretty sure the minmatar one only has damage bonus for 1 type ....


Hannott Thanos Squadron 15 Likes received: 868	#160 - 2012-09-28 21:36:47 UTC Yeah, I think it's a typo, and should be explosive damage type bonus. while (CurrentSelectedTarget.Status == ShipStatus.Alive) { _myShip.FireAllGuns(CurrentSelectedTarget); }

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