Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well friend, women are clearly oppressed due to EVE Online's lack of footwear choices for female characters. And if you don't support the OP then you clearly must not care about the oppression of women, therefore, you're a misogynist.

I think a shop called "Floppies Sandwiches" would have excellent sales.

It would have a deliberately casual air to it, offer wifi and comfortable seating for people to relax and hang out.

Kinda like a coffee shop, but sandwich focused. I am sure coffee could be sold too.

Perhaps running a bordello might be better if you want to be lazy.

"Floppie's Bordello" has an interesting ring to it

I'm a misogynist. Me me me. I intensely dislike you as an individual, and I distrust the wimminz as a group. That qualifies me as a misogynist. Can I get a badge or something? Maybe a shirt with "this is what a misogynist looks like" written on it.

Please note that even claiming misogyny has nothing to do with hate. I don't hate the wimminz as a group, and although I don't like you, you simply aren't worth the effort of hating. The wimminz are a constant source of disappointment, and my complete lack of respect is based on things that no individual can change. Until society starts treating the wimminz as adults, instead of children that must be protected from everything, including their own foolish actions, then I say no woman is worthy of respect. That's a bit sad for the women who would otherwise be worthy of that respect, but when the excrement matches coordinates with the circular atmosphere agitator, a man is accountable for himself, a woman is not.

Also, 3/10 for trolling. You got lazy.

I would suggest the following rewording....
(just for dramatic result, no significant technical improvement)

Bladed spinning element of atmospheric re-circulation device

Regarding this, of course they do, women are by and large not allowed in/discouraged from infantry and front line combat roles. Likewise, women are discouraged from doing anything that might be perceived as masculine. I.e. police work, fire fighting, military roles and so on. So when they do, they end up as secretaries, or dispatchers. Positions away from dangerous activities.

The issue with **** isn't the statistics, it's the reaction to it. This society teaches women "don't get raped" rather than teaching men "don't ****". There is a huge amount of victim blaming and character assassinations that go on whenever a woman claims ****. Feminists aren't arguing that male **** isn't important, Western society laughs at male **** and makes jokes about it, when it is a serious problem. Feminists are arguing that how **** is dealt with in our society unfairly burdens women.

For example, the lesson isn't "don't **** women" it's "don't walk alone in a dark alley". The notion is that **** is somehow a unpreventable crime that strikes like lightning and some women are just less lucky than others. It gets even worse when you factor in things like alcohol, or if the rapist is someone you were involved with. I.e. A husband raping a wife is a horrible discussion to have because so many people see that as "his privilege".

Yes, women do graduate college at higher rates, yet despite this, they are still only a fraction of managerial positions, and they still make 70% of what men do even accounting for experience and education.

Please stop trying to bash women and feminist for something we aren't guilty of. Feminists don't hate men, they just want to be treated equally, and be able to walk home at night without someone blaming their **** on how they were dressed or how they look.

The reason laws protecting women and other minorities is because they are largely targeted because of who they are, and thus deserving of extra protections to counter that.

Regarding this issue, The gaming industry is largely masculine, thus most female aspects tend to be the stereotypical ones. High heels, short skirts, giant ****, etc. CCP is better about this in some regards (letting Pink for example, have a smaller chest to fit her smaller frame). The argument for having more options is a good one that I support, be it for male or female characters.

The argument for cross dressing however, I'm against as it would be used almost exclusively by trolls.

I think all MRAs and feminists should be dragged out and... um... nicely brainwashed (not my original thought, I'll leave that up to your vivid imaginations).

They are both what is wrong with this world in the inequalities of the sexes.


As a woman, the only misogyny in this thread is from the guy who may have been joking, and the OP (in the form of making us women look like morons).

I'm sick of the OP claiming misogyny where none exists. It downplays the seriousness of such behavior, and the danger it poses to civilized society.


At this time I woudl like to bring out that the OP may be a pedophile. It doesn't matter that they aren't, it does not matter that they do not fit the sensible definitions of the term. They simply are.

OP, that is what you have been doing. Its terrible, and degrades women more than strip clubs.

The physical requirements for such jobs often exclude the majority of women. A firefighter needs to be able to carry an incapacitated victim out of a building. As emotionally strong as women can be, their bodies aren't as durable as ours. We are biologically better suited to dangerous, physically demanding work. it's only rational that men would dominate careers like that. Even with truly equal opportunity, more men would be selected for such jobs based on qualifications.

And yes, we do have a bit of a "protect the women" mentality that drives us to keep them in safe places. That's another aspect of our biology: we're driven to be risk-takers on behalf of our family and community in order to ensure the safety of the women and children, ensuring our genes carry on.


Yeah, let's propagate THIS myth some more.


Why can't it be both? After all, I'm pretty sure both "burglary is bad" AND "lock your doors at night" are both common lessons. Sure, we'd all love to live in a world where the greatest risk of walking down a dark alley is tripping over a startled cat, but we don't. There are bad people out there. Don't afford them more opportunities than you have to.



Women are also less likely to work significant amounts of overtime, and they don't stay at any given place of employment as long. Because of this, women are less likely to be perceived as having initiative or they don't stay on long enough to get the same promotions and raises as men. The "gender gap" exists in some places, but it's not as wide as some numbers suggest.

Women have the obvious disadvantage of maternity. If you want to have children, you're in for some serious downtime from the office if you want to properly care for a newborn. Men are out of work for no more than a week in most cases. No discrimination is required for a woman to be perceived as being less dedicated or simply have less face-time with the person who would decide between her and a male colleague for promotion. There doesn't have to be a conscious "oh she had a baby we can't promote her" thought; her male competitor was simply there when it counted.

My father works for the federal government. He faces an opposite situation: women are directly given preference for promotions by having points added to their score on the tests they take to be considered. A minority woman in his workplace gets a full 15 points added to a grade that caps at 100. You want embittered misogyny, you should listen to some of the men who have worked in places like that for their entire career.


I'm not sure what you mean by "targeted". If you're talking about crime, then you're wrong. The vast majority of crimes aren't about hate. **** might be the obvious exception, but I think that having a different set of laws for raping women versus raping men is just as wrong as any other sort of discrimination. **** is ****, it's a horrible thing, and the punishment should be the same regardless of the victim.

Not really. I suspect I'd be far too particular about the food being offered up as "mine" to not be in the kitchen hovering over every worker.

So I shouldn't open a restaurant themed on the fact that all employees must wear high heels?