EVE General Discussion

An Epic Battle awaits you as a brave pilot. You and your fleet jump into the next system where the hostiles will soon be. But as you get through you realize. Nothingness. The overview shows nothing. Your fellow pilots are not appearing on the other side. You cannot warp to anything, you cannot approach anything you cannot see your own ship. You check your internet connection, and it's fine.

After you quit game and restart your client, you return. You receive an automatic fleet invite and you land back on grid where your friendly fleet once was, only to realize that now countless hostiles are jumping in and their fast tackle has your battlecruiser already scrammed. You fight for your death but die.

This is one of the worst case scenarios of this glitch.

I hope something is being done to fix this kind of problem, i couldn't find anything about it anywhere.

CCP is excellent at bringing back past glitches. Problem is, they probably didn't mean too......

We used to tell pilots to turn off brackets and effects to prevent this, then we told them to use ctrl+alt+shift+m to check if grid was loading. But this was back in the days. The question I ask today is; Are the problem located Client side or Server side. Would such preventive acts help in lowering the occasion of a failed grid load?

It's the blob warfare nerf everyone is asking for.

Working as intended. :)

yes it is a very real problem, and when it doesn't happen to me, i die a little inside when we all jump and i see multiple fleet members bracket color indicators turn blue and green and warp off in random directions.

I venture to speculate this problem is caused server side where the server doesn't tell a handful of pilots the info that their client needs to know. But it could be a combination of both. It's certainly not the player's side since all too often we're still all connected in voice communication reporting it... lameness man.

I think I hate this grid-no-load glitch more than the "oh look these friendlies that just landed on grid are neutral for all of us lets alpha them..." a moment later "stop shooting they're blue!!" overview-standings glitch.

This happens to hundreds of people every day, yet the CSM is concerned with a new voting system...for the CSM.

This issue had been reported in the Issues, Workarounds and Localisations forum section a few times now. I remember when it happened to me around the end of 2011, CCP responded by saying that it was a server-side issue related to clock drift. From my limited understanding it is a sync issue that makes the client clock move slower than the server clock (or server going faster? Or was it slower... neh you get the general idea). When this gap gets bad enough, you get stuck in a session change playing catchup with the server. To me, this would suggest that every session change you would have progressively worse loading time each jump/session change as opposed it happening after seemingly completely normal functioning, but yah...

Other theories started being thrown about: a) multiple clients vs one client; b) being in large fleets vs solo; c) regional session changes only; d) GFX settings, graphic cards, OS; e) geographical location of the clients etc, in an attempt to explain the issue. Suffice to say, there did not appear to be any, or perhaps there were too many client-sided variables, that could explain what was happening.

Apparently a fix was released in early 2012 that made the server clock refresh at a faster rate. This did not alleviate the problem for many people, or me for that matter, so I utilised an outside program aimed at forcing a client-server refresh/ping every 10 mins to reduce the clock drift. This actually fixed the problem for me. Having said that, others 'fixed it' by reinstalling/upgrading windows, not running multiple clients or staying away from big fleets... while others have never fixed it at all no matter what they tried to do.

Good luck with it and check out this topic(s) for some more information:

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hey guys!

Unfortunately we have still no clear picture on what is causing (a good part of) these grid not loading issues. As I posted in the linked thread: Please write bug reports about it, optimally with a log from logserver.exe (warning: running logserver might cause additional lag during fleet fights). The more detailed bug reports we have the likelier we can find the reason for the problems.

Btw: We'll probably also have a look at this issue in the upcoming mass test this week (hopefully I can squeeze it in somehow).

Greetings

Let me just say that if anyone is leaning towards un-subing...can I has your stuff?

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