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New dev blog: Unified Inventory Changes

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Dragonzchilde
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1501 - 2012-08-23 12:29:18 UTC
still waiting for the first useful reply of ccp on this failure
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1502 - 2012-08-24 13:28:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Buzzmong
A few months down the line, and although I've gotten used to the Uni-inv, it's still a pain in the backside to use.

The bits that make it rather hard to use is the loss of the seperate ship and item hanger windows that most people generally had setup as a tabbed window. Yeah, you can set something similar to them up again, but they're not persistant and don't quite function in the same simple and straightforward way the old system did, especially with all the extra shift or double clicking going on.

My view still remains that it's much worse as an inventory system than the one replaced, although it would be a perfect replacement for the assets window.

Please CCP, throw it out and rebuild the old system using all your new UI backend.
electrostatus
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1503 - 2012-08-25 05:31:48 UTC
Still not used to this. Who thought one window and more clicking would be better? It seems nearly any change CCP does adds more clicking. Tried to move a packaged ship from my cargo hold to my hanger. instead of going to the hanger, it went into the cargo hold of another ship. Took a while to find it. Never happened with a separate window for the ship hanger.

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MaverickScot
Diminishing Returns.
#1504 - 2012-08-28 18:17:25 UTC
That's me back after three weeks with the hopes of this UI being binned or at least usible/improved. Nothing changed and still no response to this thread after 75 pages from CCP.
Shokre O'Corwi
The Squid Squad
#1505 - 2012-08-28 20:48:38 UTC
Sadly, this monstrosity is here to stay. With the recent changes and a few months of using it the best word I can use to describe it is "bearable". It takes more clicks to do anything then it has taken before, there's still unused space that could have been used to show inventory items (the whole interface takes up too much space (yes, I'm using 1920x1080)), etc. Doing stuff has become tiresome and I'm beginning to spend more time playing something else, which is actually bad because I really like the game as a whole. I do agree that the Univ.Inv. would be an almost perfect if it replaced the assets window.
Zifrian
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1506 - 2012-09-03 17:00:16 UTC
Great work on fixing a lot of issues with this thus far. Only complaint I have at the moment is 'My Filters' section of the window is automatically up. I never use it and doubt I will but it's constantly in the way and makes using the other features harder. This is really a pain when mining and I have a can open to drop ore into. Can we get the default of this option to be minimized? Thanks

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Dragonzchilde
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1507 - 2012-09-03 21:11:25 UTC
I take it you numpties at CCP still didn't figure out how to sort this crap.

It's taking you guys a lot longer to fix it than to break it.

- still takes ages to load
- still doesn't remember the correct window positions nor the layout


Gave up on bug reporting as you already made it clear you don't give a damm about your player base.


WTB: CCP from the start of Eve, at least then you cared about your game ... now you are cocky, arrogant and only care about your iskies
Mr Bimble
Lost Ark Enterprises
#1508 - 2012-09-06 08:01:46 UTC
Cargo filter.Always up and in the way,two clicks to close it.
Cargo hold opens on looting a wreck.Have to close it everytime.
Tutorial still appears after the fix!
Drone window! What the **** is that about?!!!!!!!
Waste of time sending in bug reports now,they are being ignored if it concerns the UI ****.
Petitions anwserd by pitiful ,condescending yes men.
Whoever is responsible for this pile of **** should be sacked.Slows down gameplay,ruins my immersive experience.
This is a game.Playing a game should be fun.ccp seems to disagree with this.
Cutomer service is not exactly first class at ccp.
SadEvilTwistedUgh
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1509 - 2012-09-06 13:52:49 UTC
Mr Bimble wrote:
*snip*
Waste of time sending in bug reports now; they are being ignored if it concerns the UI ****.
*snip*

This bullet point is particularly galling considering the time and effort contributed by CCP's customers to document potential defects.

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Th3 Bu1lD3R
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1510 - 2012-09-08 02:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Th3 Bu1lD3R
My big problem right now if that most of my assets went missing while dragging and dropping from a container to a hanger. They show up in my asset search, but EVE still thinks they are a container so it only gives me the option to lock them, thus I can't contract to myself to recover.

Headed into day 4 of waiting for a response to a petition. Game play is non-existent waiting on this issue...
Anybody have any suggestions on how to get resolved?

Regards
Builder.
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#1511 - 2012-09-09 16:41:16 UTC
Dev's have been back from the summer of vacation for atleast a month now...and still no response...

I'm tired of giving feedback that is getting wholly ignored.

CCP:

Uni Inv is still not even close to where it was before...if you want details, re-read this and the other Threadnaughts that have been neglected by CCP for the past 3 months. Stop concentrating on the "oh hey we misspelled this word over in this thing very few ppl look at" and concentrate on the issues that are still causing ppl to not renew their accounts.

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...

Dragonzchilde
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1512 - 2012-09-10 19:20:08 UTC
Panhead4411 wrote:
Dev's have been back from the summer of vacation for atleast a month now...and still no response...

I'm tired of giving feedback that is getting wholly ignored.

CCP:

Uni Inv is still not even close to where it was before...if you want details, re-read this and the other Threadnaughts that have been neglected by CCP for the past 3 months. Stop concentrating on the "oh hey we misspelled this word over in this thing very few ppl look at" and concentrate on the issues that are still causing ppl to not renew their accounts.



quoting him cause he is right.

CCP dickheads. Get the **** moving to sort all this **** out.


Your "fix" is so bad you all deserve to get shot.
Balder Verdandi
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
#1513 - 2012-09-10 21:40:44 UTC
Dragonzchilde wrote:
Your "fix" is so bad you all deserve to get shot.



They should all be terminated for:

- gross negligence;
- incompetence;
- willful, wanton, and flagrant disregard to paying customers, and
- malfeasance.

If we could fire them for the simple lack of game mechanics I'd be all for it just because of this one reason alone:


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14519830



Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1514 - 2012-09-14 13:37:45 UTC
Posting yet again: Is it is unreasonable to ask for an update on this project?

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Cid SilverWing
Doomheim
#1515 - 2012-09-14 19:42:55 UTC
Only the first 4 pages had responses from CCP'ers.

They are deliberately ignoring legitimate complaints about a genuinly unworkable change that desperately needs to be rolled back to the system that actually worked.

CCP, you are being childish now.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1516 - 2012-09-16 00:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Stormshadow
After taking few months break I'm happy to see that the "new" inventory system has made some progress from the state it was when I left. However after seeing that threads related to further tweaking have been "ignored/unanswered" by CCP lately makes me almost cry. What happened to the promises about "not giving up before inventory system fine again" ?

Personally I define it being fine at the point where I don't need to open the side bar if I choose not to. Basically that would require direct access to ship cargo, hangar floor, ship hangar, market deliveries and corporation hangars from somewhere else than the side bar.

Technically what has to be done is following;

- Making it possible to drag and drop or other way add ship hangar, hangar floor, corp hangar and market deliveries window shortcuts to neocom bar for easy access. Ship cargo would be bonus but as you can open it by double clicking background image, it is not mandatory.

- Giving us back some kind of corp hangar index window which has all the hangar folders and making it possible to set those sub hangar windows to open stacked with the primary window by default. This should be done like this mainly to mimic/replace the tab feature which was lost during initial unified inventory introduction. Besides it wouldn't harm to view the hangar folders while clicking the "corporation hangars"-item on side menu also. Currently it only expands the menu on selector bar, but nothing appears to main window. This is not how you would expect it to behave. Also without this kind of functionality entire thing would be rather impossible to link in neocom as shortcut to some kind of corphangar window.

These are not very big things, but make huge difference in playability. It makes me sad that it takes months if not years to get 'em done. Please give the user interface higher priority in your schedules in future.

All in all currently the "always open to new window"-option gives me some comfort zone to live in, but after reading previous lines you probably noticed that currently digging up the windows is real pain if you tend to keep the all the side menus closed by default. There is the reasoning what you're looking for.

On lower priority list I would also like to see the "bottom bar" with isk values and such "optional" to save some screen estate, but that is not any major problem like primary ones I mentioned. Just something I wanted to mention to the end.

Thank you.

edit:

additional notes:

It used to be possible to select all stuff from ship cargo bay with ctrl + a and simply move them to either stations item hangar or ship hangar and all the stuff was automatically moved and sorted to correct ones. Now it seems that you have to move ships and items as 2 separate tasks and manually select where they belong. Not kewl.

In corporation hangars it used to be possible to write global search filter which applied to all hangars. For example if I wanted to check how many rifters I had in corporations manufacturing hangar, I wrote "rifter" to search box. Then if I needed to manufacture more rifters I simply changed to blueprints hangar which automatically displayed only the rifter blueprint. Now you have to write search terms to each window as separate tasks. Not kewl.

It used to be so that if you accidentally or purposely closed corp hangar, you could bring it back up pretty much with one click. Now you have to 1st open inventory window, expand side bar, reopen each window individually and arrange the stack back to the order you like to have it. I really miss the tabs already. Not kewl.

Corp hangar just doesn't seem to work properly with the new system anymore. Sorry.

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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#1517 - 2012-09-17 13:37:01 UTC
got used to this new inventory for a bit but it's still sh*t as before, because its a pain in the *ss to use.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1518 - 2012-09-17 13:45:34 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
got used to this new inventory for a bit but it's still sh*t as before, because its a pain in the *ss to use.

yep... thinking the same while copypasting search terms from one windows search box to another and trying to see where the improvement is :)

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Dragonzchilde
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1519 - 2012-10-04 19:23:35 UTC
Still waiting CCP.


your inventory still sucks balls.


WHEN is it getting FIXED?
shado20
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1520 - 2012-10-05 01:00:10 UTC
still think this unified inventory is still crap!