EVE General Discussion

goonstorm is best storm


bring yer rubbers and an inflatable vest

I love the goons

May then long continue on the path of showing no mercy to all who ice mine :)

no wonder you're so bad at eve

i understand the general opinion you have about the recent goon activity.


but wait.....what is this Cheese you speak of?

do you mean you are profiting? what does the cheese represent?

I am posting in here because the OP's name made me laugh.

Plenty of ice to mine in nullsec. Course that would require empire scrubs to move out of empire, and ya know cooperate to mine.

Sure you mine ice for hours in null so hard you smell from there

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think im missing something, who are goons?

The OP gets it.

I'm not a fan of Goonswarm tactics or general attitude either, its not how I like to enjoy the game. Its not the highsec miners fault that ice mining is set up the way it is, thats on CCP, and the miners are taking the shaft for it anyways like its their fault for keeping their POS's alive. The general attitude is "BOTS MUST DIE", unless of course you are not a bot, in which case you are considered an idiot for participating in a boring activity. So pretty much you're pissed on either way. It's like kicking puppies, it may be fun for some, but its pretty lame in general and doesnt say much about how "badass" you are to begin with.

But not agreeing with motives or tactics aside, what the Goons are doing is completely legitimate in terms of gameplay. It may be the equivalent of playground bullying, but its what we've come to expect from the Goons, and should be allowed as long as game rules aren't being broken. The downside of having a sandbox is that cats will **** in it.

The reason Goons can do this though, is not because they are somehow special, or coddled by CCP, or any of that conspiracy nonsense. They do what they do because they are numerous, and they are organized. The Mittani, in all his egomaniacal assholishness, is merely playing a game about unlimited power, to the extent that it can be played. One cannot fault him for "winning" in that sense.

Anyone really up in arms about the Goons, who really wants to seem them "dealt with" needs to beat them at their own game. In other words, go find 2000 friends, get them to take orders from you, and attempt to stop the Goons from doing whatever it is you don't like.

Is this easy? No. But the power that the Goons have, is power they are given by lack of organized opposition. Nothing about the game is set up to favor them in particular, and even the proposed changes to nullsec / lowsec / highsec as offered up by the CSM, usually hurt the goons just like any other pilot. The idea they somehow have been bending CCP to their will just doesn't hold up.

In a sandbox game, whoever organizes the largest force, can influence the game at the highest level. If you don't like the fact that the Goons hold that position currently, go organize a larger force yourself, or do what most of us do and just ignore them.