EVE General Discussion

Yeah, I'm somewhat left wondering why two delegates have basically said "We provided feedback" without bothering to expand on it.

Come on CSM, expand on the events of the discussion. If you provided feedback that amounted to "We support this change" take the time to expand on why that was your stance, rather than just providing vague comments

Then CONCORD should lift its restrictions on DECLARING war and send us back to the days of the Privateers of 4 years ago.


God knows the game could use it.

your so correct i love you. Maybe i should give up the 3 corps i own and the CEO of The 0rphanage alliance and delete my charater so i can be Science and Trade Institute corp too.

your so correct i love you. Maybe i should give up the 3 corps i own and the CEO of The 0rphanage alliance and delete my charater so i can be Science and Trade Institute corp too.

This is so obviously an abuse of game mechanics.

If CCP doesn't want to enforce this in a case by case basis, they need to modify the game rules to make dec-shielding non-viable. Perhaps a lower cap on war dec costs, or one of many other solutions.

As for the saving of high Sec POS through leaving an alliance, yes, that's easier now, but there are still ways to still destroy a tower within normal mechanics even after the war cool down due to leaving the alliance has ended (and it has been done successfully already).


This is where you can see CCP aint playing there own games..


Please be so kindly how we will be able to destroy an HIGH sec pos..
What do you propose us to do.? this **** is a fecking joke...

M'kay, rather than fix WD mechanics, we're gonna go ahead and introduce a new way of breaking them. If you play Eve you can now spend your isk on wardecs, which can be circumvented by the targets. This is the equivalent of, and thanks to this thread, is just as well known waste of sik, as the "Hi, I represent a legitimate Nigerian bank, and I'd like you to waste your money by...."

POS Removal dec's. Okay sure that was covered above, but did you stop to think that most moons are taken already occurred to you CCP? What if I have a new indy corp, and I want to start making stuffs. I will need to wardec, or hire mercs, to remove towers so I can setup my own. Now this goes away. As does the POS-save mission, as few will have the need for such an operation. It's like the scene in 'Lord of War" where Nicholas Cage simply change the flag and paints a new name on his freighter to avoid the police. Same thing here. M'kay, just change the corp log on the tower and it's safe. Good stuff, much better than using the spaceships and skills you train to play the game.

I read the proposed "work-around" solution of continual aggression on a tower to keep it from switching, er, I mean exploiting it's way out of getting red-misted). You're kidding right? M'kay, what you need to do, in order to kil the tower(s) you paid hundreds of millions to wardec, is talk your pilots into a nearly 2 day continuous operation (if tower is stronted). The majority of this operation, when the tower is in RF, will be spent linking fukung pics to one another in fleet chat. We are recruiting POS bash pilots.

Lastly, whether you are one of the "come to 0.0 RAWR", middle of the road, or CCP haters in the above posts, everyone can agree that by this policy, it's the middle-class and poor who will suffer the most here. The ones who cannot afford to setup alliances will not be able to enjoy this super-nifty way of avoiding wardecs. Given the sensitivity of the isk for win discussion on AUR and Noble exchange, I would think CCP would have gone the other way on this. Buy more plex and you're safe, you can buy even buy more plex and buy faction towers and faction BS'es. Just buy plex. Oh, you can't afford plex? I hope you recover from your loss.

For everyone complaining, here is a reason why the Wardec shield mechanic might be a good idea.

1. NPC corp have tax to virtual coffers, isk disseappers
2. Corps don't really have tax to virtual coffers, isk doesn't disseapper
3. CCP changes wardec rules, allowing dec shields.
4. ???
5. PROFIT! Maintaining the dec shield is very much like POS Fuel, skill que, moon mining, or PI; You have to actively iniated the wardec to yourself once a week from other corps. So, to keep so many wardecs active on yourself to effectively cockblock someone else you have to apply your own isk to shell corporation and submit to CONCORD. So....more isk is draining out of EVE. To buy your own protection is like the 11% tax NPC corp people pay, it just makes it more expensive to live a "safer" highsec life style.

So yeah, not a totally bad idea if you think about it. If you still want to complain, then don't think about it and it still makes sense...sorta . I mean, do you really want to POS bash that much? And there are thousands of moons, just move farther away from the trade hubs. If you want PVP....Lowsec, FW, Red vs Blue, Null, or start your own Red vs Blue battle leagues if your so inclined you don't have to shoot every guy in highsec.

Unless, like EVE University, you were supplied a method of avoid most of those CONCORD costs in setting up a very expensive nineteen corporation decshield.

haha.

there are other big high-sec alliance out there that can easely use that tactic.

the 19 corps dec-shield is pretty easy, and cost around 200m. per week. it just take time...

3-4 people can do it in 2h, splited over 2-3 days..

even small alliance can do that. it only requires 1 paid character slot. (trial account can declare wars..)

As for every moon occupied? come on, I found 3 in the same system in like 10 minutes 5 jumps from jita.