Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Except when you don't, I guess :)

I've never seen an answer to this question. Is there plans to make FW missions only spawn in systems that border your factions space? what I mean is If FW missions spawned one jump into enemy space, then enemy missions would spawn next to where you run missions. Thus making the PvE in FW almost a kind of PvP and justifying the rewards!

plus it focuses more player into the fighting area, makes grouping up more natural.

So if this isn't such a good idea can't you just tell me why? : /

Sooner rather than later, please. But make sure it's done right. I'm, uh, not sure nullsec players will put up with a botched revamp.


e: Fozzie, Ytterbium: One concern I have with this is that it's not until winter. Yes, I know, code takes time to write and test, but farming is rampant, and I think that the doomsday scenario that I outlined in my article on the topic is a completely realistic possibility, especially with mission farming - the bugged agent was especially bad, but multiboxing L4 missions is still hysterically egregious. Any thoughts on it? I'd hate for this fix to come in on winter only for the system to be wrecked beyond salvaging.

What I'm saying here is that you might find it beneficial to turn off the FW missions. It's not like they don't feel out of place in a PvP system anyway, and speaking as a guy who's farmed a couple hundred of them for standings for my market alts, beacons for them on the overview is irrelevant - pvp doesn't happen at them anyway.

WHAT!?! I thought you lot LOVED the awesomeness of Dominion

It was always the schedule to put FW to bed and then go full tilt on nulls arses as far as I know. 'Tis a big job and they'll probably need all hands on deck to pull it off in a timely manner.

I suggest that you are not able to buffer the vulnerability of systems at all. I very much like the idea that a bunker busting fleet can't just farm a system to a very vu;nerable state, drop a blob on it and kill it. Instead, a bunker busting fleet should be forced to bring a diverse role of ships that can defend complexes during the bunker bust. It adds urgency to the defense of a system "if I can get just this one plex that whole fleet can't hit the bunker anymore". Can lead to epic king of the hill micro-cosm battles within a larger fight for a system.

Personally, I'd hope for it to only apply to Militia Members of the Faction holding Sovereignty. Anyone else should not be affected by the Upgrades.

If someone wants to take advantage of the Rewards of an upgraded FW System, then they should need to sign up to the Militia and be exposed to the Inherent Risks of being in the Militia (Ships and Structures become a legitimate target to the opposing 2 Militias, for one)

And more targets is a good thing, right?

I really think CCP should nerf the amount of LP you get per mision when doing FW. Atm i just have to do 10 missions then i can solo upgrade an i-hub to tier 5? Getting 100k LP is easy.

Also with this amount of LP i can wait until Tier5 LP discounts, and basically get a **** load of stuff

Things I think you need to consider when making your changes:

1. The ability for FW pilots to dock in the opposing factions highsec stations.
2. Restrict nuetrals with a low standings with faction from docking in their stations.
It just seems silly to have FW pilots locked out of stations in systems they dont own but yet allow them to dock in same factions highsec stations, continuing this thought, when considering pirates who shoot FW pilots on a daily basis, why would the faction continue to allow them to dock in stations while they attack their pilots.

CCP really needs to consider risk vs rewards for FW because even after these changes they provide FW pilots with all the risks, while nuetrals and others benefit from the upgrades provided, which now includes POS fuel savings!

Mac

The argument for allowing everybody to use upgrades is a little weak. If getting more targets (err... players) into low sec is a goal with these upgrades, then CCP should simply apply these upgrades to all low sec systems.

But I guess FW is a testbed as well. If it works in FW space, then they can implement some sort of upgrade mechanic in all of low sec ,NPC 0.0, and 0.0 with these upgrade features available as well.

Yes, the ability to produce T2 at half the time without the requirement of a POS is of no interest to anyone in FW. With nuetals having access to the beneifts, all manufacturing, copy and material research slots will be full of nuetral jobs!

Mac