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Stop forcing me to wear high heels

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#161 - 2012-08-30 18:07:34 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
High heels are not an ideal and as bad as corsets or practices like feet binding

I won't agree that they're "as bad", but I certainly agree that they trade well-being for vanity. I don't think anyone has argued otherwise here.

My problem is that you're blaming men for the consensual fashion choices made by women. I get that you don't like high heels and would rather not see them in the game, but rather than pitching a fit about how evil men are, why don't you calmly suggest that CCP add the OPTION to wear other types of shoes in future incarna expansion?

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

The Lobsters
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#162 - 2012-08-30 18:19:02 UTC  |  Edited by: The Lobsters
I too would like a high heal option for male toons.

Not that I like cross-dressing in RL. I just I find the thought of a 7 foot, bald, middle aged, one eyed Amarrian wearing lipstick, cheap perfume and diamanté earrings, in a flame red lamé cocktail dress and size 12 slingbacks rather unsettling.

That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim.

PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#163 - 2012-08-30 18:43:19 UTC
I think avatars need more variety on a whole in terms of apparel.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#164 - 2012-08-30 21:41:46 UTC
The Lobsters wrote:
I too would like a high heal option for male toons.

Not that I like cross-dressing in RL. I just I find the thought of a 7 foot, bald, middle aged, one eyed Amarrian wearing lipstick, cheap perfume and diamanté earrings, in a flame red lamé cocktail dress and size 12 slingbacks rather unsettling.

I believe I speak for many, when I say that you would not be alone considering this image to be unsettling....
Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#165 - 2012-08-30 21:47:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nestara Aldent
The Lobsters wrote:
I too would like a high heal option for male toons.

Not that I like cross-dressing in RL. I just I find the thought of a 7 foot, bald, middle aged, one eyed Amarrian wearing lipstick, cheap perfume and diamanté earrings, in a flame red lamé cocktail dress and size 12 slingbacks rather unsettling.


Oh now we have gotten to the heart of the issue!

You only want to troll with outrageous appearance of your char (and Ravens in pink livery with flowers on it are in this category too).

No thanks! That plagues almost every MMO on the market except Eve, outrageous characters, or costumes/equipment, furry midgets etc. Eve is one of the few MMOs with a serious take on the fantasy/sci-fi subject.
The Lobsters
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#166 - 2012-08-30 22:26:47 UTC
Nestara Aldent wrote:
The Lobsters wrote:
I too would like a high heal option for male toons.

Not that I like cross-dressing in RL. I just I find the thought of a 7 foot, bald, middle aged, one eyed Amarrian wearing lipstick, cheap perfume and diamanté earrings, in a flame red lamé cocktail dress and size 12 slingbacks rather unsettling.


Oh now we have gotten to the heart of the issue!

You only want to troll with outrageous appearance of your char (and Ravens in pink livery with flowers on it are in this category too).

No thanks! That plagues almost every MMO on the market except Eve, outrageous characters, or costumes/equipment, furry midgets etc. Eve is one of the few MMOs with a serious take on the fantasy/sci-fi subject.



TROLL??? How dare you Sir/Madam.


As it happens I rather enjoyed making a toon that is an old, ugly and battered with a warped sense of self. Rather like the fictional characters I named him after. Crossdressing would add a touch of verisimilitude.

Call me an Amarr Roleplayer if you want, but not a troll.

That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim.

Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#167 - 2012-08-31 03:07:54 UTC
High heels are just gross. Why in the hell would anyone ever wear them except on the off chance that they want to be hugely inconvenienced? Whenever I see people wearing them I can't help but think to myself, "Wow, you're dumb." It's kind of like girls who wear short skirts on freezing cold days and then complain about the cold. I'm not one for violence, but god damn if some people don't need to be slapped. I realize it has to do with some strange notion of "sex appeal," but stupidity is not sexy.

Long story short, I too found it disappointing that all the females in this game were forced into high heels.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.

Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#168 - 2012-08-31 14:44:41 UTC
bump
Faith Audene
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#169 - 2012-08-31 14:51:14 UTC
In a scifi world where capsulers are either in their capsules or in the captains quarters, but never physically meeting another person, why on earth would somebody wear high heels?

or any shoes?

or any clothes at all?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#170 - 2012-08-31 14:56:52 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
bump

Why? Do you think it will serve any purpose to call further attention to this thread? You're asking for the female model to be modified and all its footwear be redesigned. That's a significant amount of artwork for a feature that is currently essentially single player. Regardless of how offensive a few players find it, it's a tremendous waste of time when you consider they might spend it working on in-space content where actual gameplay happens.

Lose the chip on your shoulder and raise this issue as a lack of options when CCP starts talking about expanding walk in station. You'll have a chance at actually getting results doing it that. way.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#171 - 2012-08-31 15:08:25 UTC
Quite honestly, I find the notion that we all look like 21st century humans to be rather disturbing.

Are we so egocentric that we really believe we are perfect?

Seriously, we can change bodies on a daily basis, yet we apparently limit ourselves to this narrow range of appearances.

Forget shoes.... why can't I have blue skin, or cat ears?
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#172 - 2012-08-31 16:02:57 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Isabel Midnight wrote:
bump

Why? Do you think it will serve any purpose to call further attention to this thread? You're asking for the female model to be modified and all its footwear be redesigned. That's a significant amount of artwork for a feature that is currently essentially single player. Regardless of how offensive a few players find it, it's a tremendous waste of time when you consider they might spend it working on in-space content where actual gameplay happens.

Lose the chip on your shoulder and raise this issue as a lack of options when CCP starts talking about expanding walk in station. You'll have a chance at actually getting results doing it that. way.



gonna keep bumping till it's fixed
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#173 - 2012-08-31 17:31:57 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
gonna keep bumping till it's fixed

I highly doubt you have the resolve to bump this for the length of time it will take for CCP to make what amounts to a minor cosmetic change that's only apparent if you're looking for it. They have a game to balance and ships to make pretty.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#174 - 2012-08-31 20:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Why is this thread still alive? This is a detail issue. Hell... it's not even a real "issue"... more of a "personal preference" that can be easily gotten around by never using the Captain's Quarters.

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I think 99% of the commentors here would benefit massively from reading a feminism 101

Feminism "died" when women admitted that they enjoyed sex too and did equally outrageous things to get laid.
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#175 - 2012-08-31 21:47:54 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:

edit:
Quote:
I think 99% of the commentors here would benefit massively from reading a feminism 101

Feminism "died" when women admitted that they enjoyed sex too and did equally outrageous things to get laid.


hahahaha look how amazingly stupid you are
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#176 - 2012-08-31 22:05:08 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:

edit:
Quote:
I think 99% of the commentors here would benefit massively from reading a feminism 101

Feminism "died" when women admitted that they enjoyed sex too and did equally outrageous things to get laid.


hahahaha look how amazingly stupid you are

I think your logic is being challenged.

This suggests either:

A> Not all women enjoy sex, and for the OP this means feminism is not dead.

B> Enjoying sex and feminism go well together.
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#177 - 2012-09-01 01:11:53 UTC
Enjoying sex and feminism go very well together. Saying feminism is dead because women enjoy sex is just bizzare.
Marelda Ambramotte
Kiosk Cartel
Fraternity.
#178 - 2012-09-01 01:20:05 UTC
I think that science fiction clothes should be added to the clothing options. All the DUST 514 characters will have like armor and helmets and stuff, why cannot the players of New Eden? Makes sense that we get the option right?

Stuff like gas masks, jumpsuits, and armor would be awesome in my opinion.

Big smile
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#179 - 2012-09-01 04:09:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mars Theran
Somebody is a little over sensitive I think. Really surprised this made 8 pages, and I'm seeing a lot of Mysoginistic and transphopia statements here.

Really, when I see a lot of that kind of thing, I generally think one of two things: Either the heavily protesting injured party, (really?), is a phony troll, (meaning you're really a guy), or they're completely..

To put it bluntly, in the real world this sort of thing is about attention. Special attention. It's about one group or other getting special benefits nobody else is entitled to so they can feel special.

Maybe it used to be different, and there was a time and place for Womens liberation, anti-slavery sentiment, and all the rest, but that time is mostly past in most areas of the so called civilized world.

In other words, it's just a doll; it can't suffer indignity because it doesn't think or feel. The only impression of offense is from the perspective of a oversensitive person who is offended by nothing more than the artisitic choice of another with regard to that doll.

Do you really feel that it is appropriate to be offended by theatre dress?


edit: Jumping at shadows. It's not all creepy weirdos out there. Some of us find the very insinuation that we're mysoginistic, sexist, transphobic, or whatever quite offensive. Enough that we actually get mad.

Initially I found your post kind of funny, but some of what I've read since has made me feel that it is just inappropriate. It's just a game, they're just characters, and if you want flat bottom shoes for them, just ask.

Do what you like, but your personal taste doesn't give you the right to dictate someone elses. That's why people have choice in the real world, between one thing and another, generally.

Personally, I'm a little unhappy with the fact that womens interest in wearing mens jeans has resulted in them being multi-gendered and no longer fitting nearly the way they should. It's actually quite uncomfortable and for those of us who choose not to adopt changing trends resulting from this, we bear it in silence for the most part. Thankfully, they make loose fit now.

Guess somebody clued in, but it was a rough 10 years before they did. Actually, most still haven't.

Honestly, I don't recall the last time I met a guy that was sexist and willing to express it. I'm so glad too, that it has been carried so far that you can't even approach a women of interest anymore and ask her out for dinner without risking a sexual harrassment charge. So easy to meet people these days.

It's gotten to the point where the only couples I know met through a friend of a friend of a friend, (or something), after being cleared by this friend and that, then spending some time on a social networking site getting past the difficult parts of shedding societies baggage.

So really, you're carrying it a bit far; why don't you just ask for the shoes.
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Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#180 - 2012-09-01 04:48:21 UTC
p.s. have you noticed we all look a bit like a meeting of various different biker gangs?
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