EVE General Discussion

Accurate and I think its worth pointing out that ANY ship can be ganked, all you have to do is accept the ISK loss. To me sucide ganking is kind of like a terrorist act. Their (shouldn't) be a profit it in it, but it can and does have an impact on players and can be politically charged. A rare exception might be something a keen to a heist, like assaulting a freighter full of cargo, in which case, again I'm ok with it as their is a clear goal and purpose behind it. Hijackers are hijacking ****.

I think the only prevention should be to stop people from simply griefing without purpose and the most effective way to do that is simply make it unprofitable. That way if you want to grief, you have to pay. And just so we are clear, my definition of griefing is blowing up someone weaker for no profit or purpose with the sole intent to simply ruin someones day. Its not always easy to identify a grief vs. a legitimate reason to suicide gank, but if their is no profit in it, it doesn't really make any difference.

Real problem was/is that the Drone stockpiles at some point will dry up and without a DRAMATIC increase in the mining of HI SEC ores a serious mineral imbalance will cause a huge spike in the prices of all ships yet again.
I was under the impression that the mining barge buf was going to happened later but sometime before the Winter expansion. I suspect it was pushed way up TBH. In the CSM minutes it was mentioned that NULL SEC mining was way way up but it sounded like HI SEC mining had not gone up as much as expected & that is why we saw much of the mining buffs as we did.

Yeah, right and who was going to punish them as most targets were probably in NPC corps?

The new changes are a welcome change a bit late to arrive but at least they did.




Only real reason for suicide ganking exhumers was the easy isk, with the secondary for laughs factor. The risk vs reward was tilted way in favour of the suicide ganker which is why it was so popular.


So now it's up to the suicide gankers to get creative, I wonder how many will carry on suicide ganking now that it's going to cost them more to do so.

That went well didn't it

Suicide ganking? It seems CCP gave you a sandbox and you resorted to finding the most abusive way to play in it, and then when CCP try to fix your immaturity you complain, losing suicide ganking from this game is no big loss. I can't think of a valid reason I would ever want to suicide gank someone other than to be a bastard just for the sake of it, and I don't think CCP are wrong to discourage bastards from playing there game, they only detract from the enjoyment other people have in the game.

In the end the idea of creating a game is to make it fun for all who participate not just for those that create a blog and whine the loudest.

CCP created an enviroment where people can be cruel and mean to one another and still have fun, but suicide ganking, how is that fun for the victim in any way regardless of the outcome? It's just a testimony to the unoriginality of the ganker and there lust for self appreciation. It's about on par with those people who play Counter-strike and kill all there own team at the beggining.

It's hard to take you seriously when you say things like:
"The wardec changes, of course, were designed with the intention of making wars less common so carebears could mine more safely in highsec."

Biased much?

We get it, you don't like miners, lucky for everyone else CCP cares more about the playerbase as a whole than just one corner of it, I found both articles to be highly speculative, narrow minded and poorly termed throughout, your time would have been better spent mining in high sec than writing these articles.

Sorry but this is just how it seems to me, I don't know the author but I already don't want to play with him. And I don't think i'd miss him in his absence.

Well you were using the sandbox as a cat-litter, maybe CCP just does not like **** in their sand.

The stupidity that made permahulkageddon possible wasn't the barges being paper thin or ganking mechanics, it was tech. Fixing the issue with tech would have been sufficient, they didnt need to make barges have battleship tanks. That's just catering to wowscrubs.

In my opinion ... this hit the mark. Making hi-sec safer is not the same as making hi-sec 100% safe. I still have not heard any realistic reasons why buffing hi-sec (or theme park mmo if you prefer) will ruin the game? There will always be a dark and dangerous place in EVE, but the concept that villains can and should be able to conduct nefarious acts in hi-sec without any consequences makes no sense. My understanding of the crimewatch changes is that they will change the consequences of your actions in hi-sec (completely in accordance with the sandbox model). If a noob/carebear ventures into a high risk situation he gets trashed in short order - why shouldn't a villain that ventures into a low risk situation get trashed quickly?

Ah... the same old yadda yadda + biased and insulting... yea, great read.

There is nothing inherently wrong with suicide ganking any ship any time for any reason.

This has not altered in any way.

All that has changed is the isk cost of doing so.