EVE General Discussion

You can't return to the NPC starter corp that you started in, you end up in one of what I call the drop-out NPC corps where other ex-player corp pilots go.

To be fair, STO is pretty terrible. :)

Which is even MORE reason for the "change the game" crowd to migrate there, imagine how much better they could make STO by stopping suicide ganking klingon warbirds and AFK-cloaked Science ships!

Read the first half of a paragraph, didnt bother reading the rest because it has been incredibly obvious to anyone who has been following the recent changes and all greyscales hurf blurfing about crimewatch that this is what CCP are doing.

It struck me as odd that the person they put in charge of bring the code and workings of 'Crimewatch' is a renowned Carebear and Industrialist

Take Greyscale off Crimewatch and get him working on the POS revamp right away!

Put a dev on Crimewatch that actually spends time in-game shootign at people for fun.

You cannot return to your Starter NPC corp as you go to a different one. If you left friends there who are unwilling to move, you cannot return to them.

Ah, ok. But that's kind of the point, at least lore-wise, of those starter NPC corps. They're schools, aren't they? Eventually you leave school, one way or another...

but they have wis avatar immersion social blah blah now immediately?

High-sec ganking tends to keep people in high-sec.

I was a big SWG player before the cu and nge. I think I still have the collector's edition somewhere. I'm a big believer of sandbox, but I'm not such a purist to think that there isn't a place for structured content in such games. There can be no "WoW killer" in my mind. I like the game, I have an active subscription that I've had for years. I came across both eve and wow at around the same time I think. I had left EQ after 5 years or so, both games had appeal to me for different reasons.

The developers of this game have done a good job of focusing on keeping players able to make their own content. It works fanasticly well. So, I don't get really upset if some players are more resistant to things like bringing more security to high sec. I understand that the game itself is a delicate balance. Much of eve's success depends on its player perception of mechanics. Nevermind how good or bad those mechanics support or hinder thier enjoyment objectively.

I find the push back having a environment that is supportive of new players, and security while they learn the ropes interesting. Players pushing back on changes that would give them more content, via more players or more money for development from said player sub, for the simple price that they aren't aloowed to be unrepentant douches to new players. It is quite perplexing that the developers would have to go so far as to make whole systems off limits to ganker because of the efforts of some players to ruin the very first moments of a new player entering the game. Yet, looking at the reponse, most players are fine with leaving those systems off limits. It passes under the radar for the most part.

But the simple suggestion the developer make such protection explicit in the workings of high security and an invisible line has been cross somewhere. And my participation in these dicussion so far have left my unable to account for it. I get that some players are mad that older player (like me) can sit in high security, enjoy its safety while making a decent "living", that somehow even though there is much more to gain in low/null sec, that that isn't enough. I must be forced into pvp...kicking and screaming if necessary. I've proposed solutions to this delima, but I'm not so naive to think I was the first.

I don't see the other side of the arguement though. I don't see the arguement that high security must be removed and all space is dangerous all the time. I'm sure some players think that. But where is that line? At what point does safe become too safe? I only ever see the real motions to make high sec actually secure? Are we to then conclude that high sec could be more secure, if only players realize that they too enjoy the benefits from time to time? Surely the players that never enter high security must be a vast minority? Or am I to conclude that the most outspoke opposition have no idea what they want. That they will never admit that they too like to visit jita from time to time without the looming threat of violence over their shoulders.

I'm not sure where I was going with that, if at all, but it those thoughts that come to me when I discuss this with other players.