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warp&dock: one more failed mechanic and how to deal
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-25 16:39:26 UTC
this is post for newbees who (like me Lol ) gets caught when does warp&dock procedure. Pro and "PVP-gods" can ignore it (or troll)

Problem: when you warp to station your ship stops near to warp-in point. This is usually "almost dock range" but not always. Now when you get out of warp you ship stoped 1-2 kilometers off the station. And now ship gets speed to reach station. If there is camper on SBed arty ship he can lock and one-shot many untanked ships while that ship can't do anything.

Solution: it is always better to warp to undock point. First time you docked to low- or 0.0sec station undock and make bookmark. And use it to warp&dock. You always get into docking range and can dock before anyone locks you.

PS: well. Not exactly always: there is stations with very small undock area. Keep it in mind.

Hope this post will help to some newbs to evade stupid "pro-pvpers" in SBed arty ships camping low-sec stations.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-08-25 16:46:23 UTC
so instead of being a nice way to be able to warp and dock its a nice way to still get killed the same way if you did it manually?

IS THERE NO PLACE SAFE?!

zut alors!

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James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#3 - 2012-08-25 16:47:48 UTC
Not a bad idea, but I'm far too lazy these days with warp-to-zero to bookmark an "insta" like that. Smile

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C O'Brien
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-25 16:54:40 UTC
When I pick the station, I choose dock. I'm always closer than when I "warp to 0".
WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-25 16:56:17 UTC  |  Edited by: WonkySplitDemon
how about just creating a safe 200km off the station, I mean if its a problem you run into regularly it is easy enough to see whos on grid before you warp in to dock and at 200km very little, if anything will be hitting you at that range. SIMPLES

edit: P.S All hail the James!!! Blink
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-08-25 17:25:04 UTC
This is working as intended ... people have to think for themselves a bit
and figure out how to instadock. Which is quite easy to figure out,
but left as an exercise for the player.

It's as simple as that. The smart ones have advantages ... and they should.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-08-25 17:26:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Oh and to add something:

The "to help the noobs"-argument is the dumbest argument ever,
because nobody knows if "the noobs" don't actually join because they like
to experience the game exactly as it is advertised.

We don't know ... i don't know ... but i don't claim to know, unlike you and many others.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#8 - 2012-08-25 17:38:37 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
how about just creating a safe 200km off the station, I mean if its a problem you run into regularly it is easy enough to see whos on grid before you warp in to dock and at 200km very little, if anything will be hitting you at that range. SIMPLES

edit: P.S All hail the James!!! Blink


I would make one a bit farther away, 1 even off grid.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#9 - 2012-08-25 17:51:47 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
how about just creating a safe 200km off the station, I mean if its a problem you run into regularly it is easy enough to see whos on grid before you warp in to dock and at 200km very little, if anything will be hitting you at that range. SIMPLES

edit: P.S All hail the James!!! Blink

* James 315 nods curtly

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-08-25 17:55:43 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
how about just creating a safe 200km off the station, I mean if its a problem you run into regularly it is easy enough to see whos on grid before you warp in to dock and at 200km very little, if anything will be hitting you at that range. SIMPLES

hm... what if i ALREADY know that there is camper there? Do not dock? Lol

Problem is not that you don't know who's there. Problem is strange mechanic when you can't be sure you warped to 0 or not "to 0" Lol

It happens to me 20-30% of times i used "warp&dock" feature. And ship doesn't matter here. Once it happened to Nemesis... Once - to mammoth.... What?

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WonkySplitDemon
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-08-25 17:59:54 UTC
well if you jump to a BM off grid you wont be able to see if theres anyone camping it which is kinda the whole point???
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-25 18:22:31 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
how about just creating a safe 200km off the station, I mean if its a problem you run into regularly it is easy enough to see whos on grid before you warp in to dock and at 200km very little, if anything will be hitting you at that range. SIMPLES

hm... what if i ALREADY know that there is camper there? Do not dock? Lol

Problem is not that you don't know who's there. Problem is strange mechanic when you can't be sure you warped to 0 or not "to 0" Lol

It happens to me 20-30% of times i used "warp&dock" feature. And ship doesn't matter here. Once it happened to Nemesis... Once - to mammoth.... What?


if they prepared for you being prepared, then +1 for being a step ahead.

Pirates are usually simple people, but the clever ones we stay a step ahead, every step.

If you die after taking precautions, unfortunately the pirate is smarter than you and WILL kill you.

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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-08-25 18:40:51 UTC
WonkySplitDemon wrote:
well if you jump to a BM off grid you wont be able to see if theres anyone camping it which is kinda the whole point???

d-scan with short range (to cover the station) and thin angle (15%) will say enough about undock you are looking to.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2012-08-25 19:34:51 UTC
…personally, I prefer to warp to -20km and auto-dock.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#15 - 2012-08-25 20:11:03 UTC
what kind of person would sit on a station and insta pop nubs trying to dock......


o right.


Learn to bookmark the undock.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Ieldan
Tea Tactics
#16 - 2012-08-25 21:43:14 UTC
Lol poor you, i remeber when there was no warp to 0 and verything was 15km, so next time your 1km out of the undock and your been webbed and scrammed, be thankfull your not 15km out like we used to be.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-25 22:20:40 UTC
Ieldan wrote:
Lol poor you, i remeber when there was no warp to 0 and verything was 15km, so next time your 1km out of the undock and your been webbed and scrammed, be thankfull your not 15km out like we used to be.

Lol

first PC games i played without sound and on 4-colors monitor..... Not sure this is something to be proud of tho

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-08-25 22:32:58 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Ieldan wrote:
Lol poor you, i remeber when there was no warp to 0 and verything was 15km, so next time your 1km out of the undock and your been webbed and scrammed, be thankfull your not 15km out like we used to be.

Lol

first PC games i played without sound and on 4-colors monitor..... Not sure this is something to be proud of tho


Kings Quest on a CGA display.

Awesome! xD
xKolax
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-08-25 23:09:19 UTC
I'm so old I remember Zork. monocolor. didn't matter cause it was all text
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#20 - 2012-08-26 01:13:00 UTC
Pfff. We wrote our own games in basic.
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