EVE General Discussion

Why does minesweeper have no PvP? It appears to be no place for PvP gamers. Even when asking around everyone seems to feel like it is only a pve game. It seems handicapped for people wanting to play pvp.

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I am not sure that putting this post in here was wise inb4 all the trolls

There are places in EVE where you can go literally days without seeing another player in-game. You can do whatever you want: run missions, mine, explore, whatever. All you have to do is bring up the galactic map, find out where the majority of fighting is going on, and head in the opposite direction.

Even can be as PVE or PVP as you want it to be. Yes, there is a risk that some ganker or can-flipper or loot ninja will come along and bother you, but it's easy to avoid for the most part.

1/10 troll not even funny really.

Everyone that plays eve, new people, old bitter vets, and hell even the botting miners understand eve is pvp. The market is completely player run therby pvp. The missions and such are pve until another player wants to scan you down then it's pvp. All in all eve is Everyone vs Everyone.

I was there.

You mean none?

I have been reviewing replies to another post I had along the same line.

Some are helpful and some are scathing.

I would have to say I now understand EVE is not in anyway a PvE game. It is entirely PvP. It may have PvE elements, and this may be why so many seem to confuse the two, but from the replies and posts I have seen, EVE is PvP.

I am sorry if I have wasted anyone's time with this question. If anyone develops a game similar to EVE that supports PvE players, please let me know. For now, I guess I will have to suffer less evolved games.




The game includes elements which would seem to control or limit abuse, but they are not enforced. I was laughed at when I placed a bounty on a PvP player who had just blown away my ship. I and a friend were later both blown away by another player with a higher security rating than many other players I have met, and so I could not even place a bounty on him. There are no controls.

As you say, it is a 'real' universe, and so the lowest common denominator always shows up to take it out on everyone else, but without a true layer of consequence or consistency, it simply becomes anarchy.

i think that's an insult good sir :P

Eve is an MMO, so just because PvE is not optimized for single-player doesn't take away from what it is -- it is both PvP and PvE, which also includes categories you eliminated and didn't mention. These, like exploration, incursions etc. are no less PvE.

Otherwise, I'm unclear as to the point of your post:
But, I'll answer/respond to part of it.

Join a corp or don't. It is much easier and productive doing the latter.

Mining is probably the least effective thing to do solo. You could do the market solo and manufacturing with variable efficiency.

You can be a solo courier if you're smart -- it's not risk-free but can be low-risk. If you don't want to offer your service via say Red Frog or such, try networking with some small PvP or PvE groups (at a discount) -- look for people with war decs and stuff. Build a rep and move up to bigger clientele.

Otherwise, there is an alliance/corp of freelancers that run ads in the recruiting section (I forget the name). I'm not sure how useful it is but you may be able to get tips there.

Read the Eve Isk Guide http://www.isktheguide.com/ and check out Sci/Indy for additional useful information.

Because it's the kind of game and target audience the devs are after.

Not really, no. That would rather defeat the purpose of the game.

Sure. So many other games have that segment covered, so there's no need for EVE to incorporate it especially since, again, it doesn't fit with the fundamental way the game works.

Try X³ if that's the gameplay you're after.

Perhaps not in general, no, but this one is. That's why there are so many different games: to cater to different preferences and different markets.