Missions & Complexes

Jesus christ, the news post didn't clear this out until I read this thread half way to read this specific post.
Please update your news post to make sure everyone reading the post understands that this refers to "COSMOS" complex.
This was very very upsetting news to us all, and the way you have been continuously clarifying in this thread shows how little you understand the way your news post is read and understood.

Please CLARIFY more!

"going to do your laundry"? um excuse me.. but putting in a load of laundry doesn't take 23 hours. I have consistantly done my laundry three minutes at a time for years because of mining cycle time.

If the person is going to their bed and sleeping that's a different story but you can drop sentries and sit there with your eyes glued to your monitor and accomplsih the same thing.

I think you are nit-picking here CCP.. If I were you I would be very careful accusing people of being AFK in a game where AFK activity is very much part of the norm, (skill training, contract and market orders, PI, moon mining, sitting in station doing nothing, freighting on autopilot, and to a much lesser degree regular mining.) Sounds to me like you are joining the tin foil hat folks that claim that "afk" is any activity engaged in where you do not toucvh the keyboard regardless of your presence in the seat.

PS BTW.. "afk" cloaking is not an issue. if you are absent you are no threat and cannot do anything, making money or otherwise, in game. I've always said that the cloaking nerf-herders are really all about nerfing the non "afk" cloakers.

They might wanna look at the same for the static DED complexes in hisec... always some people camping the last rooms in these complexes 24/7 - for an example, just look at Autama... 2/10

Dont you have better things to fix sreegs?

Also you should ban datacore farmers and guys using PI.

IT IS PASSIVE INCOME, HERETICS! HERETICS!

god...

Please biomass your main

I can feel the hate in this thread. On all sides.

Do you see what happens when an employee interacts badly with customers?

For those stating people as cowards, because they see a potential thread in AFK cloakers.

They are called AFK cloakers because most of the time they are AFK, which does not imply that they are not any thread, because any moment they could come back and catch you.

First of all, people need to read this.






With that done, please ensure that any question you ask is relevant to THIS particular issue. CCP Sreegs has made it quite clear that his news story ONLY affects one particular form of AFK'ing and which one is mentioned quite clearly in the post he chose to quote.

Feel free to ask your questions, but remember that these forums operate with certain rules which can be found here, please make sure that when you post, you post following these rules.

I have cleaned this thread of as many off topic, trolling and personal attack posts as I can without completely destroying the thread; however if this behaviour continues I will lock it. While it is clear that many people are upset over this subject, please remember to post responsibly so that a proper discussion can take place and we can have a set of forums that we can all be proud of. Thank you for taking the time to read this, it is appreciated - ISD Type40.

Sreegs, the only issue here is really the haziness of the article, even after the edits. Obviously, you know what you were trying to say, so it reads perfectly clear to you, but for everyone else, there's too little detail, and all it comes across as is "AFK PVE is now bannable," even though that wasn't even close to the intent.

Trust me, over explaining is better than being ambiguous. Fill that sucker up with detail and let us know exactly what is and isn't a bannable offense. Give us the exact scenario, the respawning COSMOS missions, that is considered an exploit so that we know you aren't just ban hammering everyon who goes to do their laundry without logging.

Ex: "There is a specific set of static complexes, such as the COSMOS plexes, that will constantly respawn rats. AFK farming these for days on end is considered an exploit, and is, from this point on, a bannable offense. This does not effect regular gameplay."

And while you probably don't want to listen to advice from some random noob on the web, don't get defensive on the forums. It corrodes your image as a dev. If there's anything that could be percieved as argumentative in your post people will assume you're getting all huffy, even when you aren't.

Again, you're probably thinking "Who the hell is this nub to give me advice on being a dev?" You're entitely to think that, I am some random nub, but crystal clarity and some congeniality can prevent pretty much every forum fire.

Take care o/

Edit: I just cannot stress enough how important clarity is. Explain everything in absurd detail. We don't have any visual cues or body language on the web, and can't easily ask what you meant. People will generally read things in the worst possible light, so squash all of that ambiguity and give us specifics specifics specifics.

This is clearly an exploit of the game mechanics, all the people who where doing it are now crying about it.
Go mining or something.