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Incarna/WiS Disappointment

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#841 - 2012-08-10 10:46:31 UTC
There are a million other things that could make EVE even greater, and much more easier to implement and better suitable to the current world. Why not focus on them, instead of tacking WiS clumsily into a spaceship game?

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#842 - 2012-08-10 10:51:59 UTC
Roime wrote:
There are a million other things that could make EVE even greater, and much more easier to implement and better suitable to the current world. Why not focus on them, instead of tacking WiS clumsily into a spaceship game?



well make a thread ,with an out of spaceship feature you want to add to this game.

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Aooz
Doomheim
#843 - 2012-08-10 11:11:49 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Roime wrote:
There are a million other things that could make EVE even greater, and much more easier to implement and better suitable to the current world. Why not focus on them, instead of tacking WiS clumsily into a spaceship game?



well make a thread ,with an out of spaceship feature you want to add to this game.



He won't because he was just bluffing. He has no ideas.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#844 - 2012-08-10 12:50:01 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Agreed... also, I wanna be able to hit a flashy club and shake it to some dark rythums... the game has a sagnificant dark space opera/cyberpunk vibe to it, and I wanna see some more of that, for pete's sake!

...sadly, I think CCP has pulled the resources they would need, and put them into World of Darkness and DUST. All we can hope is that these projects work out...

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRtYuG6MgX8 Blink


LotGH is to anime what EVE is to MMORPGs. Or more, as LotGH features both space and hand to hand battles.

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Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#845 - 2012-08-10 13:52:03 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Actually I'm not sure where I got the idea from either.

I guess we're a bit desperate for some good news regarding Incarna in this thread. The little bits and pieces that have ended up on Tranquility are great don't get me wrong.

But you can't live on breadcrumbs alone.


True, in terms of where we are it is just after the big summer exodus in the office and internally we're marshaling together the plan for the next few months in terms of what we will put together and release. Sleeve tattoos are definitely on the list for consideration with a big star and lots of arrows pointing at it. When we know precisely we'll let you guys know.


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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#846 - 2012-08-10 13:58:28 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Flamespar wrote:
Actually I'm not sure where I got the idea from either.

I guess we're a bit desperate for some good news regarding Incarna in this thread. The little bits and pieces that have ended up on Tranquility are great don't get me wrong.

But you can't live on breadcrumbs alone.


True, in terms of where we are it is just after the big summer exodus in the office and internally we're marshaling together the plan for the next few months in terms of what we will put together and release. Sleeve tattoos are definitely on the list for consideration with a big star and lots of arrows pointing at it. When we know precisely we'll let you guys know.

What else has big stars and arrows pointing at it?

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Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#847 - 2012-08-10 14:56:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Shepard Book
Roime wrote:
Quote:
You know, it pretty feels like CCP painted themselves in a dead zone: if they don't fix FiS they don't have a future, if they don't develop WiS they don't have a future, and they can't fix FiS and develop WiS at the same time. Pick your poison.


WiS has no effect on EVE's future in any way. That's why it has been sidelined, 3D avatars are not mandatory in a game revolving around flying in space.



Opinions vary on that. Yours, is a very short sighted view in my opinion. WIS would have helped bridge the gap for many new players and blood to this game I believe. Look at the failures that I call Star trek and even Star wars. Those are players we could have much easily been captured if we just had WIS because it would have been a stepping stone for something they can relate to.

Emo rage and bandwagon effect scrapped everything from incarna which was mostly about golden ammo IMO. I do not want golden Ammo either, mind you. I do not think it was just CCP. I think we have the CSM to thank as well for the knee jerk reaction canning everything from that launch. Much of it I was looking forward to. WIS (establishments, Corp room planning rooms, contraband, gambling), Black Ops and Scanner systems Buff. No local, are just a few. ALL scrapped because of the fear of golden ammo, CSM, and bandwagon. The leaked brain storming letter by someone they can not trust in CCP did not help either IMO. People lost their jobs at CCP over all of that and the fact some CSM seemed like they were bragging about it made me lose respect in some of them. This back burner stuff is frustrating.
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#848 - 2012-08-10 15:05:34 UTC
well i am at Jita 4-4 shooting a statue maybe this helps to get some answers from mister Unifex

i never thought i would shoot at the statue,but it seems to to be the only thing left beside unsubbing

And the only thing that would stop me ,is a good explanation from CCP management


Is it even possible to give a good explanation ,for blocking the devblog?

R.S.I2014
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#849 - 2012-08-10 15:11:51 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
well i am at Jita 4-4 shooting a statue maybe this helps to get some answers from mister Unifex

i never thought i would shoot at the statue,but it seems to to be the only thing left beside unsubbing

And the only thing that would stop me ,is a good explanation from CCP management


Is it even possible to give a good explanation ,for blocking the devblog?


It would induce head explosion.


Sounds like a good reason to me.


Or anger. Lots of anger. And monument shooting.
Cypreion
Robux Industries
#850 - 2012-08-10 15:14:24 UTC
I think everyone who complains that "This game is about FiS onlyz!!!!" are afraid of getting pwned. Not everyone who plays EVE sucks at FPS so go practice you aiming skills and quit complaining. I'm looking forward to the chance to headshot some of you complainers who suck at aiming and blow those implants all over a wall along with your grey matter. The whining in this game is amazing sometimes.
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#851 - 2012-08-10 15:17:41 UTC
Cypreion wrote:
I think everyone who complains that "This game is about FiS onlyz!!!!" are afraid of getting pwned. Not everyone who plays EVE sucks at FPS so go practice you aiming skills and quit complaining. I'm looking forward to the chance to headshot some of you complainers who suck at aiming and blow those implants all over a wall along with your grey matter. The whining in this game is amazing sometimes.


i thought fis was derogatory term in stations.


like selling my body.


not fighting in space.



god, i hate acronyms
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#852 - 2012-08-10 15:36:57 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
well i am at Jita 4-4 shooting a statue maybe this helps to get some answers from mister Unifex

i never thought i would shoot at the statue,but it seems to to be the only thing left beside unsubbing

And the only thing that would stop me ,is a good explanation from CCP management


Is it even possible to give a good explanation ,for blocking the devblog?



come on unifex ,get me the explanation please?

so everybodyelse nothing to do right now ? come to Jita 4-4 and shoot an alreaady destroyed statue

R.S.I2014
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#853 - 2012-08-10 16:36:22 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Sorry for the radio silence for the past couple of weeks, I've been variously ill, spraining ankles and on holiday.

I've got bad news about the devblog we promised. It's been swallowed by the black hole of corporateness and won't be seeing the light of day for the foreseeable future. The team have been as vocal as we can about the merits of putting it out but to no avail. We're continuing to try and work out a way of showing you work we're proud of and think you will like but for now our hands are completely tied. Sad


Eh.

There are already videos out there and other information.

Just tell them that the devblog will be more productive than anything.

Where I am.
Ghazu
#854 - 2012-08-10 17:04:09 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Agreed... also, I wanna be able to hit a flashy club and shake it to some dark rythums... the game has a sagnificant dark space opera/cyberpunk vibe to it, and I wanna see some more of that, for pete's sake!

...sadly, I think CCP has pulled the resources they would need, and put them into World of Darkness and DUST. All we can hope is that these projects work out...

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRtYuG6MgX8 Blink


LotGH is to anime what EVE is to MMORPGs. Or more, as LotGH features both space and hand to hand battles.

Rosenritters in action



The Rosenritters are nothing but dishonorable traitors!

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#855 - 2012-08-10 17:19:38 UTC
Ghazu wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Agreed... also, I wanna be able to hit a flashy club and shake it to some dark rythums... the game has a sagnificant dark space opera/cyberpunk vibe to it, and I wanna see some more of that, for pete's sake!

...sadly, I think CCP has pulled the resources they would need, and put them into World of Darkness and DUST. All we can hope is that these projects work out...

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRtYuG6MgX8 Blink


LotGH is to anime what EVE is to MMORPGs. Or more, as LotGH features both space and hand to hand battles.

Rosenritters in action



The Rosenritters are nothing but dishonorable traitors!


Amen to that! They should be put to death for betraying the empire.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#856 - 2012-08-10 20:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
PinkKnife wrote:
Ghazu wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Shalua Rui wrote:
Agreed... also, I wanna be able to hit a flashy club and shake it to some dark rythums... the game has a sagnificant dark space opera/cyberpunk vibe to it, and I wanna see some more of that, for pete's sake!

...sadly, I think CCP has pulled the resources they would need, and put them into World of Darkness and DUST. All we can hope is that these projects work out...

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRtYuG6MgX8 Blink


LotGH is to anime what EVE is to MMORPGs. Or more, as LotGH features both space and hand to hand battles.

Rosenritters in action



The Rosenritters are nothing but dishonorable traitors!


Amen to that! They should be put to death for betraying the empire.


That's one honorable to do against dishonorable murderous scoundrel.

Long live Yang Wenli!

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#857 - 2012-08-10 21:10:31 UTC
Roime wrote:
There are a million other things that could make EVE even greater, and much more easier to implement and better suitable to the current world. Why not focus on them, instead of tacking WiS clumsily into a spaceship game?

Why add PI to the game when there other things they could be doing?
Why add wormholes to the game when there other things they could be doing?
Why re-do mining barges when there other things they could be doing?
Why add FW to the game when there other things they could be doing?

Because all these are features that some subset of the players enjoy.

WiS is also a feature that some subset of the players would enjoy.

I still like the "vote with you money" idea. Part of our subscription goes to developing new features. Let every player say how their portion of their subscription is spent. That way everyone who dislikes WiS will know none of their money went to develop it.

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Ghazu
#858 - 2012-08-11 05:04:34 UTC
PI, WH, Mining Barges, FW are all spaceship related gameplay subsets in a spaceship game?

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#859 - 2012-08-11 06:47:17 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
That's one honorable to do against dishonorable murderous scoundrel.

Long live Yang Wenli!


So sad... Sad

...Shakespeare in space... the Japanese are so good in telling stories.

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Moe Cislak
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#860 - 2012-08-11 08:28:02 UTC
The best way to go with Incarna is to create new PvE content with avatars:

In deadspace areas we can often see Hollow Asteroids, Stations, Habitation / Pleasure hubs, or even spaceships. We should be able to dock these and explore them on foot to accomplish our objective instead of blowing **** up everywhere and then loot NPCs who magically survived the blast.
I would LOVE to be able to board NPC ships, and if all fail then we can always fire the artillery.