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thoughts about the newly changed T1 frigs?

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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#1 - 2012-08-08 14:10:04 UTC
I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update.

However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar What?

discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) Roll
Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-08-08 14:11:28 UTC
Slasher still looks like a flying lawnchair, so I'm still pretty 'meh' about it...

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Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-08 16:28:45 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update.

However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar What?

discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) Roll


But your Jag does more damage... right?

That aside, I am a little wary of these buffs. It's perhaps made some T1 frigs as good as T2 or Navy frigs... or at least close to them... for a fraction of the cost.
Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#4 - 2012-08-08 16:32:41 UTC
I support cheap PVP.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#5 - 2012-08-08 16:33:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tom Gerard
I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =)

117 DPS kinetic rockets
Small T2 Nosferatu

T2 MSE
T2 SCRAM
T2 WEB
T2 Afterburner

T2 MAPC
T2 Ballistic Control

Anti-EM
Extender
Extender

Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor

http://osmium.artefact2.com/loadout/140

This was my fit.

Now with 100% less Troll.

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#6 - 2012-08-08 16:47:04 UTC
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update. However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar What? discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) Roll
But your Jag does more damage... right? That aside, I am a little wary of these buffs. It's perhaps made some T1 frigs as good as T2 or Navy frigs... or at least close to them... for a fraction of the cost.


When the time comes I'm sure we will see adjustments made to the faction and T2 vessels as well. Changes geared to make them excel at certain specific tasks.

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Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#7 - 2012-08-08 16:49:21 UTC
Tom Gerard wrote:
I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =)

117 DPS kinetic rockets
Small T2 Nosferatu

T2 MSE
T2 SCRAM
T2 WEB
T2 Afterburner

T2 MAPC
T2 Ballistic Control

Anti-EM
Extender
Extender

Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor

http://osmium.artefact2.com/loadout/140

This was my fit.


Oh look! a Punisher or a Tormentor.. you're ****** :D

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-08-08 16:49:56 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Traejun DiSanctis wrote:
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
I found the newly changed T1 frigates such as the Slasher to be a lot more useful and generally awesome after today's update. However it does look rather odd to me that a Slasher with a neutralizer+scram+web+T2 AB is more cap stable than my jaguar What? discuss(and don't forget the atron, executioner and condor) Roll
But your Jag does more damage... right? That aside, I am a little wary of these buffs. It's perhaps made some T1 frigs as good as T2 or Navy frigs... or at least close to them... for a fraction of the cost.


When the time comes I'm sure we will see adjustments made to the faction and T2 vessels as well. Changes geared to make them excel at certain specific tasks.


I sure hope so, because I'm basically ready to sit my Harpy and Slicer in favor of a Merlin and Executioner. The only Navy frig I'll never shelf is my Comet. So pretty... so deadly.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#9 - 2012-08-08 16:55:21 UTC
Denidil wrote:
Tom Gerard wrote:
I killed a RIFTER in my CONDOR =)

117 DPS kinetic rockets
Small T2 Nosferatu

T2 MSE
T2 SCRAM
T2 WEB
T2 Afterburner

T2 MAPC
T2 Ballistic Control

Anti-EM
Extender
Extender

Rifter pilot was 8 months old, I am ~3.5 years old, so it wasn't exactly a fair fight... but <3 the new Condor

http://osmium.artefact2.com/loadout/140

This was my fit.


Oh look! a Punisher or a Tormentor.. you're ****** :D

Big smile
Now that's exactly what everyone wants to see. A much wider variety of ship hulls in common combat usage, which add's multiple levels of complexity in how you fit and fly your ship to deal with them.

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Zane Echerie
Spelunkers Inc
#10 - 2012-08-08 19:06:05 UTC
I'm looking forward to actually flying an Atron for once with an actual purpose instead of just "I was too poor at the time to buy anything better"

Looking forward to the combat Navitas when it comes out Big smile
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#11 - 2012-08-08 19:07:55 UTC
I haven't looked at all the specs, but it's not bad to see some frigates other than the rifter getting some love. The rifter will still hold a special place in my heart though. Smile
Marzuq
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#12 - 2012-08-08 21:01:12 UTC
James 315 wrote:
I haven't looked at all the specs, but it's not bad to see some frigates other than the rifter getting some love. The rifter will still hold a special place in my heart though. Smile


The rifter was the supreme t1 frigate out of all.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#13 - 2012-08-08 21:02:44 UTC
Adjustments will need to be made along the way. Rome wasn't build in a day (or something like that).
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-08-08 21:49:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
I love how we have Baby Intercepters now (T1 frigs with high scan resolation and prop jam reduction but not the range boost). Maybe next we'll get Baby Bombers (T1 Frigs that shoot torps but no cloak/bomb launcher).
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-09 07:14:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Russell Casey wrote:
I love how we have Baby Intercepters now (T1 frigs with high scan resolation and prop jam reduction but not the range boost). Maybe next we'll get Baby Bombers (T1 Frigs that shoot torps but no cloak/bomb launcher).

That don't sit well with a concept of T1 frigs being available to young toons - torps are long train, relatively, and don't forget the price. Also, such frigate won't really see much use (little choice of targets while in a hull that doesn't do wee in environement where such targets are met).
But maybe Frigs with cruiser-sized assault (?) missiles will do. Price issues still say though, good HAM launchers are overpriced as heck atm.
Roime
Shiva Furnace
#16 - 2012-08-09 07:17:56 UTC
Tiericide feels good in the pants

Props CCP, this stuff is awesome! Keep it up <3

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Max G Force
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-08-09 07:20:34 UTC
Pirate ship changes are crap.

Bad enough that they gave them a crappy paint job, then they had to make it worse by altering the sizes.
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-08-09 07:55:18 UTC
While the Rifter was probably never meant to be a tackler, it epitomized "every ship is dangerous."

http://i.imgur.com/Dhd8o.jpg

The Rifter is dead. Long live the Slasher. :\

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#19 - 2012-08-09 09:22:45 UTC
Max G Force wrote:
Pirate ship changes are crap.

Bad enough that they gave them a crappy paint job, then they had to make it worse by altering the sizes.

Massive nerf I know

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-08-09 09:43:10 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
Max G Force wrote:
Pirate ship changes are crap.

Bad enough that they gave them a crappy paint job, then they had to make it worse by altering the sizes.

Massive nerf I know


if they altered your size i bet you'd call it a massive nerf Blink
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