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Request for Advice Regarding Careers
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Bonaparte Dallocort
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-05 22:45:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Bonaparte Dallocort
I'm really sorry, I know these questions have probably been answered many times before but, as the game's so fluid & ever-changing, I wanted to know that what I was getting were up-to-date answers with a view to the future - especially with the new patch. Also, the guides in the Evepedia, wikis, etc. don't really explain what the careers are like to play nor explain what types of people usually gravitate towards them.

I have completed the tutorials and am half-way through the epic mission line following it but I really don't know what career path to follow. Just some notes:


  • I liked my logistics missions but that's an impossible path to follow solo,
  • I kinda like mining but I often get bored &, whilst I could go and do something else, I don't want to leave and have my ship blown up,
  • I like the idea of going into lowsec & nullsec and doing something like mining or salvaging - something where I know one bad move could make me the prey of a pirate,
  • I love the idea of the archaeology & boosters sides of exploration bar using probes. They are far to fiddly to get a lock on to anything & I spent 10 minutes moving 2 probes slightly up & down before I could get a clear lock,
  • Courier missions have all been dull however, I imagine being a courier through lowsec & nullsec would be good fun,
  • I'm not interested in a trade career. I'm self-employed IRL so I don't want to have to be going through my accounts & sums IG as well,
  • I really like the idea of a metagame career but I have no idea if or how they make any ISK. I gravitated towards the idea of an in-game journalist but there's no way to get paid for it that I can see,


In summary, in most games I like to play a challenging style which, whilst it might not be optimal, is still able to do well whilst being fun & different to everyone else. Is there a career path that would balance this with my notes from above? Also, if you have any questions for me that would help you comment, I'll gladly answer them.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-05 23:14:09 UTC
Ok, so you want to do logistics, mining, salvaging, exploring, couriering, no trading (though if you get the trade skills up you can trade from any station in the region you're in. Make it a background task that makes isk), and you want to join The Scope (Eve's news people)

Good news is that you can do all these things on 1 character, just start training the skills! Big smile

A 2nd account would make the training part easier

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Ferrucio Surge
The Bag Cartel
#3 - 2012-08-05 23:23:05 UTC
Yeah I would train up all of the skills you want to learn that involves your interests to at least lvl2, and start with that.

Personally, I do like three different things to make money.

Mine, Blueprints/Manufacturing, Missions/Incursions (includes Salvaging available Wrecks).

If you like to mine, passively train some skills to get you to Retriever. In High-Sec you can make 5M ISK per hour in a Retriever. Then while you wait for those skills do exploring or whatever.
Bonaparte Dallocort
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-08-05 23:24:19 UTC
That's not quite what I was meaning, Surfin.

I like the idea of doing something different - like a metagame career - but I don't want to be doing everything. That's what I've been trying to do at the moment & it's not working out so well.

I want to have a clear direction but in a career which the majority wouldn't follow - like soloing in nullsec with a logistics ship - but one that is also potentially viable if a bit of skill is thrown in.

I guess my question should've been "what unusual/challenging careers might I like based on the above?"
Bonaparte Dallocort
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-05 23:29:36 UTC
Ferrucio Surge wrote:
Yeah I would train up all of the skills you want to learn that involves your interests to at least lvl2, and start with that.

Personally, I do like three different things to make money.

Mine, Blueprints/Manufacturing, Missions/Incursions (includes Salvaging available Wrecks).

If you like to mine, passively train some skills to get you to Retriever. In High-Sec you can make 5M ISK per hour in a Retriever. Then while you wait for those skills do exploring or whatever.


See, that makes sense because the skills all match - there's a synergy there. However, I have been training up whatever I fancied at the time & it's meant I've not got a real direction to head in now.

At the minute, I'm essentially an explorer who can only mine, doesn't use probes & kills rats at long-range. It's not really much of a career path. This is why I was asking for guidance as to possible directions for unusual careers.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-08-06 12:35:13 UTC
Apply to join a nulsec corp.

Tell them your really interested in flying a logistics cruiser, and train for one.
Then maybe expand that into a RR Carrier path.

You would still be able to train the probe/exlporation skills, or mining skills and would have a good location for applying those 2 skillsets whilst in nulsec.

Best path is in eve is the path that follows the stuff you enjoy.
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2012-08-06 13:14:42 UTC
Mate the right career for you is the Drug manufacturer, dealer. Join a WH corp mate. Its really good isk in there. The challenge is always cos there is no local in WHs. Basically till u get some good skills to mine gas and manufacture drugs u can mine asteroids, rat and salvage sleepers, do some PI. So when u ll be able to manufacture drugs the real deal will be to get em in highsec and sell em. U d need a covert ops hauler. There is also lot of exploration and probing to be done in WHs.

U can go around lowsec and sell drugs to pirates. Like a mobile market :D.
WH is also good to manufacture T3 parts.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2012-08-06 14:48:02 UTC
Bonaparte Dallocort wrote:


  • I liked my logistics missions but that's an impossible path to follow solo,
  • I kinda like mining but I often get bored &, whilst I could go and do something else, I don't want to leave and have my ship blown up,
  • I like the idea of going into lowsec & nullsec and doing something like mining or salvaging - something where I know one bad move could make me the prey of a pirate,
  • I love the idea of the archaeology & boosters sides of exploration bar using probes. They are far to fiddly to get a lock on to anything & I spent 10 minutes moving 2 probes slightly up & down before I could get a clear lock,
  • Courier missions have all been dull however, I imagine being a courier through lowsec & nullsec would be good fun,
  • I'm not interested in a trade career. I'm self-employed IRL so I don't want to have to be going through my accounts & sums IG as well,
  • I really like the idea of a metagame career but I have no idea if or how they make any ISK. I gravitated towards the idea of an in-game journalist but there's no way to get paid for it that I can see,




  • Solo Logi (I'm assuming RR) is impossible, because being neutral will get you killed (most low/null is run "NBSI" -- Not Blue, Shoot It!). If you mean hauling crap to sell, it's difficult (have to run gatecamps, might not be allowed to dock) but can be profitable.
  • AFK anything in EVE is dangerous. However, that's not to say you have a 100% chance of getting exploded. Get into a corp, then you can have mining (or whatever) as a background activity to chat.
  • Ninja mining can be done, though it can be more profitable to do other things. New Skiff (after Inferno 1.2) or Mackinaw will be a godsend here.
  • Need more probing skills. I'm honestly not interested in the exploration thing. Drug manu can be profitable, but running POS can be a *****.
  • Could be. Just be careful about docking rights. Also get the Blockade Runner (cloaky hauler) ... it'll help a lot.
  • Trade skills can be helpful ... especially if you go into a resource-heavy operation (manufacturing, drug production), since you'll practically never be able to supply yourself.
  • Most of the stuff is because they made something awesome, or have a lot of passive income (e.g. moon goo, PI, etc). Bring something of value to the people, and you'll get ISK (sometimes).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-06 15:43:59 UTC
EVE doesn't have fixed careers (I know the tutorial will make you think they are there, but they have to group it in a way).
Do what you like to do, that's the only important thing. If it means mixing mining with pvp or incursions with trading, that's your choice. EVE is a game so play it the way you like it.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#10 - 2012-08-06 15:57:32 UTC
Bonaparte Dallocort wrote:



  • I liked my logistics missions but that's an impossible path to follow solo,
  • I kinda like mining but I often get bored &, whilst I could go and do something else, I don't want to leave and have my ship blown up,
  • I like the idea of going into lowsec & nullsec and doing something like mining or salvaging - something where I know one bad move could make me the prey of a pirate,
  • I love the idea of the archaeology & boosters sides of exploration bar using probes. They are far to fiddly to get a lock on to anything & I spent 10 minutes moving 2 probes slightly up & down before I could get a clear lock,
  • Courier missions have all been dull however, I imagine being a courier through lowsec & nullsec would be good fun,
  • I'm not interested in a trade career. I'm self-employed IRL so I don't want to have to be going through my accounts & sums IG as well,
  • I really like the idea of a metagame career but I have no idea if or how they make any ISK. I gravitated towards the idea of an in-game journalist but there's no way to get paid for it that I can see,


Narrowing it down from this list:

- If taking 10 mins to get a signal resolved is frustrating for you, don't make exploration a primary career
- Courier in lowsec isn't actually any less dull, you generally win any conflicts that come up in the fitting menu before you undock
- Ninja salvaging isn't its own career past about the first month.
- The mining boats are about to be restructured to offer some lower yield/higher toughness options for lowsec

So that leaves mining, joining the Scope and jetting around doing whatever it is they do while you train for logistics. That said, eventually you're going to want exploration skills and access to the industrial boats as general support skills eventually, plus basic trade sills on principle.
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-06 16:33:58 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
Bonaparte Dallocort wrote:



  • I liked my logistics missions but that's an impossible path to follow solo,
  • I kinda like mining but I often get bored &, whilst I could go and do something else, I don't want to leave and have my ship blown up,
  • I like the idea of going into lowsec & nullsec and doing something like mining or salvaging - something where I know one bad move could make me the prey of a pirate,
  • I love the idea of the archaeology & boosters sides of exploration bar using probes. They are far to fiddly to get a lock on to anything & I spent 10 minutes moving 2 probes slightly up & down before I could get a clear lock,
  • Courier missions have all been dull however, I imagine being a courier through lowsec & nullsec would be good fun,
  • I'm not interested in a trade career. I'm self-employed IRL so I don't want to have to be going through my accounts & sums IG as well,
  • I really like the idea of a metagame career but I have no idea if or how they make any ISK. I gravitated towards the idea of an in-game journalist but there's no way to get paid for it that I can see,



- Courier in lowsec isn't actually any less dull, you generally win any conflicts that come up in the fitting menu before you undock


That is one of the best things I've read on these forums in a long time.