EVE General Discussion

Nevermind.

Bubbles and Cynabals are usually the normal deterrent for us.

I am less afraid to lose things and more afraid of the costs associated with losing things.
In order to PVP I have to do the following.


Jump Clone to a clone that has no implants of value
Build a few ships
Find a place to pvp

Then when all is said and done people will stop fighting each other and gang up on me because of who I am.

It's a losing game unless I am in some big alliance like hydra or whatever there is no reason for me to pvp.

Preperation time vs combat time.

Half an hour to fit out a ship, an hour or two to find a fight, 30 seconds of combat.

Team Fortress 2, 10 seconds to organise your fit/respawn, 10 seconds to find a fight, minutes of combat.

Markets is where small scale PvP in EvE is at

Can lose small or large amounts of money, nobody got neut RR, Falcons won't jam your orders (but you can disrupt the other traders tracking!).

Most of all, it's quick to find willing opponents and everybody stand a chance.

I'm a lover not a fighter. Except on the market. Then I'm a lover and a fighter. I like it rough.

Same feelings here. When I feel like blowing up stuff, I play Word of Tanks. It is constent fighting and action. Watching those tanks blow up is absolutly amazing. I also find that WoT provides the same rush experience Eve gives you when in a PvP situation. But on a much more frequent basis.

Cant wait for the up coming World of Warplanes!! (the next WoW??)

I, for good or ill, bring my morals with me into a video game. I often assume other people do as well (a habit I am trying to break). I don't engage in ship to ship PvP for the same reason I don't walk down the road hitting people. I think it is rude and I do not find being a jerk to people fun. I would rather make friends. I will however defend myself to the best of my ability and accept that to be part of Eve. I also prefer co-operative game play towards a goal that doesn't by necessity take away from other people (Mining, PvE, and Diplomacy as examples). I came into Eve because of spaceships. I did my research and have managed to play without getting ganked more than once (undocking without checking local during a war... oops). Other than that one time all my ships lost have been as planned. Nothing I didn't expect.

Another reason I do not PvP is often the PvPers themselves. I appreciate that the few times I have lost ships to other players that there were reasons. Poor planning on my (or my group's) part. Being unprepared or just not being the better player/s in the fight. I do not, however, need to have my heritage, sex, sexual prowess, sexual orientation, age, mental capacity, weight, financial stability, etc questioned. I can accept a loss with dignity and have never engaged anyone in local beyond "Good Fight" or "Nice Job!" I may even put myself out there to risk losses and learn PvP if I did not have to put up with what people have to say about me when I win or lose. The few times I have been in a fleet with these types on my side it was no more pleasant. I am not an FC. I do not wish to FC because I do not like having attention drawn to myself or really any responsibility over other people. For the same reason I don't like having attention drawn to myself I am very careful to follow directions and have never been the object of an FC's ire. However, I find it no more pleasing to listen to someone else be berated than to be berated myself.


Note: I am in a 0.0 alliance but this is very new to me. Most of my experience in the game is in High-Sec so please take my post as a High-Sec perspective. I accept the "to undock is to consent" part of Eve and part of my fun is actually avoiding PvP which I am rather good at.

I hope this contributed to the conversation and made sense

I have nothing against you or your play style, and your choice whether or not to pvp is yours and yours alone, but please. please don't bring real-life morality into a discussion about shooting people in video games. Your intent might be amicable, but by doing so, you essentially become the soccer mom who blames Grand Theft Auto for the local school shooting. When you rationalize video game violence with moral stances, you hurt both gaming and freedom of expression as a whole.

Also (and don't consider this as anything but friendly advice), you need to work on developing a thicker skin toward interaction with other people on the Internet. Once again, there's nothing wrong with having a type-B personality (heck, I have one myself), but if you can't deal with some 13-year-old calling you a ****** every once in a while, you should probably not be online in the first place.

Quick edit: and the reason you need to work on a thicker skin isn't because you have some obligation to do so, or because some stranger told you to, but because it will help you cope when some 13-year-old inevitably does call you a ******, and despite your best efforts, you won't be able to avoid reading/hearing his words.

You didn't really read my post, did you?