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There's a certain type of player who think that any mechanic they don't like is 'griefing'. The majority of players realise this was an issue with reports of the events in a battle being a bit wonky because of a very old mechanic, but good luck getting these fools to understand that.

Repeat after me, folks:
Blowing up your ship is not griefing.
It is not griefing for the game to record/make visible your loss.

At last, thank you CCP!

Veshta you obviously don't like blobbing and yet you want people to be able to "scuttle" their ship if their opponent doesn't blob enough ? (i can only assume you mean blobbing when you say griefs and ganks)
You'll get more good fights if people don't have to bring overwhelming force to be able to get loot/killmail.

The change Masterplan is making is perfect because the old mechanic was idiotic and only kept in place because of whiney carebears who wanted to be able to grief the people who defeated them. (you can call it spit-in-the-face if you want)

But hey write off my opinion as just another insanely loudmouthed griefer/ganker, and not that of someone who has been active in this game since beta.

PS; as a roleplayer do you honestly think it's reasonable for every single ship in eve to have explosives rigged up everywhere that'll do more damage than any external attack could ?
That's a colossal waste of resources, and a huge stupid risk to the safety of ship and crew.

damn crazy capsuleers :(
i can't really argue with that except to say you should have to make those changes yourself (fit a rig or something)

You really don't need explosives, just read the lore on what the powerplants on ships are. Cut the safeties (override them) and pretty soon you'll have a nice big boom that leaves just an expanding cloud of gas and minute particles, nothing even remotely intact left.

And yes, I consider this change to be absolute bollocks, why shouldn't I be able to deny my opponents the killmail and loot?

Or just some PL guys cried too mutch to CCP momm, because the smart capital pilots selfdestructed their own ship before some PL blobber got a killmail. :P

I think you have it backwards here. The people self-destructing are the ones griefing and you are crying about it. Despite being the bitter-vet thing to do, it's not very piratey of you.

you just failed physics tyrrax. badly.

Blobs mainly stem from CCPs insistence on having most game altering mechanics revolve around EHP grinds, started back when they introduced POS and have been expanded upon to this day with the biggest blob inducer being supers.
Another major contributor to blobs has been the population increase, we are flock animals (or whatever the mammalian equivalent is) through and through after all .. strength in numbers is as old as life itself so blobs will never be gone from Eve until we start the inevitable decline.
Griefs and Ganks include blobs, but also for example the frigate that can hold a ratting BS or even a super perpetually with logoffski having been nerfed recently .. it basically means any lop-sided fight which does not necessarily mean a blob.
Players (myself included at times), as much as we don't want to admit it, are not generally looking for a good fight but a win at whatever cost. That is why we bring bling, friends and do our utmost to manipulate the environment in our favour (Grid Fu .. never did get the hang of that one ) ..

Current system is pretty borked and it has been an ongoing topic for as long as I can remember, but changes suggested makes the existence of the SD button itself moot. What possible purpose would anyone ever have for pushing it when it goes live .. only thing it will do is save a bit of time before reship .. no point in making those changes when almost the exact same can be achieved by simply removing the code altogether.

You actually stayed through the beta .. couldn't stand it myself .. like playing a MUD version of Skyrim
I never discount any opinion if it is valid and properly presented, rarely are on the hot topics such as SD, griefing/ganking and my darling FW though .. very often degenerate into slurs, personal attacks and alt spam.

Every single ship, no. Every ship designed for combat, yes. We already see that today with SD mechanism in most of the high-tech junk being launched against the various cave dwelling (relatively) nations as the wars for control of resources escalates.
Besides, we are talking spaceship with what is presumably fusion or anti-matter reactors .. read up on the damage done by our comparatively primitive fission reactors when they fizzle unintentionally and consider that a deliberate meltdown/destruction will probably be magnitudes worse (cruisers in Eve have approximately the same (slightly lower) output as a modern day nuke plant by the way).

Pretty sure ships in eve are designed to resist that kind of thing , they have defences, resistances etc - a doomsday blasting your dreadnaught to bits still leaves half your modules intact , I don't see any reason to think your ship's engines blowing up would have a greater effect ( if that's even how eve self-destruct is supposed to work )

The ability to destroy your cargo and modules can hardly be a high priority when designing the ship considering how open everything is in the eve universe technology wise , not like the Amarr would be paranoid about Minmatar getting hold of their fancy laser technology .

If they did have something super secret on a particular ships then they could install special systems for self-destruct purposes - something capsuleers should also be required to do.
Fit a rig or whatever if you want the nearly pointless ability to deny loot .

PS; by your logic Hulks, Freighters, Rorquals, Jump Freighters should not be able to self-destruct their mods / cargoholds