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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1921 - 2012-07-30 04:28:47 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:

Nothing is free


Except my love.

Correction: Nothing is free save the things that you aren't sure you want.
Pipa Porto
#1922 - 2012-07-30 04:30:17 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:

Nothing is free


Except my love.

Correction: Nothing is free save the things that you aren't sure you want.


Come here, my love!

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1923 - 2012-07-30 05:25:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Pipa Porto wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:


"i've been playing for three months and i keep losing vagabonds why are they so weak"


A Retriever is clearly on the same advancement level of a Vaga. Roll


"I've been playing for 3 months and I keep losing Stabbers why are they so weak."


Actually, given the SP Reqs for a Retriever (14d),

"I've been playing for 3 months and I keep losing Maelstroms(8d) why are they so weak."


Never came close to risk losing a stabber, but if you are low SP and go pee while you are in a Retriever you really risk coming back and find it popped by 3 NPC frigs.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1924 - 2012-07-30 05:27:30 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jypsie wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
Fun to see people whine who's motivation clearly is to only pvp when their targets cannot defend themselves :)

I doubt they can even see the joke in this.


96 pages of ganker tears.

You've clearly read none of them, since there are actually no ganker tears to be found.


That's possibly a testament to this thread, it's almost on Tippia amounts of self implosed blinders-ness.

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Pipa Porto
#1925 - 2012-07-30 05:28:19 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:


"i've been playing for three months and i keep losing vagabonds why are they so weak"


A Retriever is clearly on the same advancement level of a Vaga. Roll


"I've been playing for 3 months and I keep losing Stabbers why are they so weak."


Actually, given the SP Reqs for a Retriever (14d),

"I've been playing for 3 months and I keep losing Maelstroms(8d) why are they so weak."


Never came close to risk losing a stabber, but if you are low SP and go pee in a Retriever you really risk coming back and find it popped by 3 NPC frigs.


That's true of a Stabber in a Level 2 as well. (Level 2 would be the roughly equivalent income).

Right Click > Dock takes 2-4s. Can you not hold it that long?

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1926 - 2012-07-30 05:29:11 UTC
La Nariz wrote:


Making something easier attracts more people to the profession which means more minerals will be being mined. More minerals being mined means more supply available which drives cost down. I never took an econ class and even I know that when somethings more common it generally gets cheaper.


... and how is this a bad thing?

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Pipa Porto
#1927 - 2012-07-30 05:30:52 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
La Nariz wrote:


Making something easier attracts more people to the profession which means more minerals will be being mined. More minerals being mined means more supply available which drives cost down. I never took an econ class and even I know that when somethings more common it generally gets cheaper.


... and how is this a bad thing?


It is for Miners.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1928 - 2012-07-30 05:32:02 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
A Retriever is clearly on the same advancement level of a Vaga. Roll


perhaps not, but an exhumer is


Too bad you quoted a Retriever post about low SP characters and not an exhumer post, eh?

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1929 - 2012-07-30 05:34:06 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:


"i've been playing for three months and i keep losing vagabonds why are they so weak"


A Retriever is clearly on the same advancement level of a Vaga. Roll


"I've been playing for 3 months and I keep losing Stabbers why are they so weak."


Actually, given the SP Reqs for a Retriever (14d),

"I've been playing for 3 months and I keep losing Maelstroms(8d) why are they so weak."


Never came close to risk losing a stabber, but if you are low SP and go pee in a Retriever you really risk coming back and find it popped by 3 NPC frigs.


That's true of a Stabber in a Level 2 as well. (Level 2 would be the roughly equivalent income).

Right Click > Dock takes 2-4s. Can you not hold it that long?


I have done thousands of missions, what you say is simply a lie. L3 can do that, L2 won't kill any vaguely fitted stabber expecially if it's not sitting idle at the center of the spawns.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#1930 - 2012-07-30 05:34:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Pipa Porto wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
La Nariz wrote:


Making something easier attracts more people to the profession which means more minerals will be being mined. More minerals being mined means more supply available which drives cost down. I never took an econ class and even I know that when somethings more common it generally gets cheaper.


... and how is this a bad thing?


It is for Miners.


And we should care... why? I don't see you caring for Samsung selling sell for much less than Apple prices, do you?

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1931 - 2012-07-30 05:36:46 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
It is for Miners.


More minerals in market = cheaper mineral prices = cheaper ships and modules = good for ganker.

No reason for you to whine here.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1932 - 2012-07-30 05:38:39 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
La Nariz wrote:


Making something easier attracts more people to the profession which means more minerals will be being mined. More minerals being mined means more supply available which drives cost down. I never took an econ class and even I know that when somethings more common it generally gets cheaper.


... and how is this a bad thing?


Because what will happen is mining will become the worst profession again and then all the miners will throw forum tantrums again until CCP buffs mining again. I don't care if it becomes a terrible profession again, but I do care that CCP is giving in to stupid things like forum tantrums from people that basically want pvp removed from highsec.

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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1933 - 2012-07-30 05:41:06 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Because what will happen is mining will become the worst profession again and then all the miners will throw forum tantrums again until CCP buffs mining again. I don't care if it becomes a terrible profession again, but I do care that CCP is giving in to stupid things like forum tantrums from people that basically want pvp removed from highsec.


Cheaper minerals doesn't mean just cheaper Catalysts/Tornadoes. It also means cheaper supers.
Pipa Porto
#1934 - 2012-07-30 05:47:27 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
It is for Miners.


More minerals in market = cheaper mineral prices = cheaper ships and modules = good for ganker.

No reason for you to whine here.


Yeah, and Bad for Miners.

I was for the Drone Poo nerf as well. Mining shouldn't be the worst profession in EVE by such a large margin. It should be halfway decent.

I just find it weird that Miners keep wanting their profession to be easier and don't seem to get that that ease that they're calling for will hurt their income.

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Pipa Porto
#1935 - 2012-07-30 05:48:30 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:


That's true of a Stabber in a Level 2 as well. (Level 2 would be the roughly equivalent income).

Right Click > Dock takes 2-4s. Can you not hold it that long?


I have done thousands of missions, what you say is simply a lie. L3 can do that, L2 won't kill any vaguely fitted stabber expecially if it's not sitting idle at the center of the spawns.


If it's sitting AFK in the mission "because you had to go to the bathroom" it sure will die.

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#1936 - 2012-07-30 05:57:28 UTC
And you vagabond........shalll.......die - emperor palpatine

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1937 - 2012-07-30 05:59:38 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Because what will happen is mining will become the worst profession again and then all the miners will throw forum tantrums again until CCP buffs mining again. I don't care if it becomes a terrible profession again, but I do care that CCP is giving in to stupid things like forum tantrums from people that basically want pvp removed from highsec.


Cheaper minerals doesn't mean just cheaper Catalysts/Tornadoes. It also means cheaper supers.

He knows this, and I'm pretty sure with most Goons and other CFC members like me, he's against further proliferation of supercaps.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Knight Cabbage
Doomheim
#1938 - 2012-07-30 06:00:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Knight Cabbage
It seems like the goons and like-wise minded "PVP"-players are quite mad that CCP foiled their attempt to dictate the direction of the game by a little ship balancing.

Giving their gloating on the endless miner whine threads after the extension of the hulkageddon bounties, I find this quite amusing.
Pipa Porto
#1939 - 2012-07-30 06:01:59 UTC
Knight Cabbage wrote:
It seems like the goons and like-wise minded "PVP"-players are quite mad that CCP foiled their attempt to dictate the direction of the game by a little ship balancing.

Giving their gloating on the endless miner whine treads after the extention of the hulkageddon bounties, I find this quite amusing.


The new Hulk's gonna top out at 22k EHP now. I think we'll get some delicious tears from the Mining Forum Warrior community once it goes live.

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Octoven
Stellar Production
#1940 - 2012-07-30 06:07:05 UTC
Ganking for profit lets see how that works, you have one ship topped out at 120 mil taking down a ship valued at 280 mil. The gank pilot makes a profit the miner loses. It goes beyond that though right? The gank toon grabs another nado and repeats the process, meanwhile that miner that just got ganked is busy grinding to replace his ****. Ok, fine he got ganked, miners arent bitching that they are getting ganked, they are bitching because the gankers lose such a small amount compared to the miner himself.

Granted, this is eve and dark bullshit is everywhere. However, with changes to barges it will take at least 2 nados if not 3 to drop a barge. Even at 3 that puts ship cost at 270 mil for a 280 mil ship. Sounds like a fair deal to me. High sec isnt a pretty playland where you can comb each other's hair, you can STILL be ganked, its just going to cost you just as much as your costing the miner. If you want to be a pirate Pirate try your luck in low sec. In a logical sense, why is it so damn important to gank miners for profit?