EVE General Discussion

I think it's safe to say that a vast majority of GD forum warriors want FIS. I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of Eve players don't look at or post in the forums, or at least not in GD. There are probably as many or more players that want WIS than what we have in these forums who are against it. They just don't post in here .

Incarna was fine, however the lack of FiS was definitely a problem. It wasn't the problem it was made out to be, but it was hyper-inflated to epic proportions at the time, due to a few things:

1: Occupy Wall Street was happening at the same time, thus rebellion was in the air, and people sated their anarchy lust the best they could; by poo-pooing a video game and shooting a video game statue.

2: The controversy surrounding "Greed is Good", and the general lack of respect of the players that was portrayed by management, and "marketing".

3: A lapse in FiS development.

4. The monocle, and the inflated prices of the "NeX".

5: I can't stress #1 enough. It really was the deciding factor. Goons threw their fit and the sheep followed, because this was in the air across the globe.

All of this was needed, had #1 not existed at the time, then #2 could have been begrudgingly accepted, but people were sick of corporate **** at the time so it was taken as a God Tier Personal Insult; #3 felt like the 1% got together to play an inside joke on EVE players. Had this had occurred at a time when #1 was not present, then people would have been more patient, the direction would have continued, we probably would have seen a lapse with Incarna for a bonus update for FiS, and the rest of WiS would have been released in increments as we speak.

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Shooting a statue was not the thing that woke CCP up to the fact that they were pissing their only product down the toilet, though it helped to frame the media narrative. Tens of thousands of accounts quietly unsubscribing and going to play something else, because players lost faith that CCP was ever going to listen or act to fix long-standing issues because they were spellbound by projected monocle sales, was the shock to the system that gave us back the FiS focus.

Very disapointed

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CCP's presence in this topic appears to have vanished.... along with the devblog.

'Cause it's better than all the rest?

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You know there's a funny statistic.

Iceland hosts the only MMO game company whose first released game was a successful paid MMO and whose MMO is still active.

Sorry but I disagree, there were 3 in space expansions before incarna that all sucks and all had more devs and more work put into them than crucible. That means they could of worked on WiS and still made that kick ass expansion. But they didn't, and blaming it on WiS is stupid as ****

people left becuase not only were they not listening, but WiS SUCKED. everything thing was badly lit, minmatar *even inside ammar stations* and was ****. you didn't want to show people eve like that. And the last 3 2 years had terible expansions too so the in space cword was leaving as well. incarna was the final nail in the coffin, they weren't just no listening, they weren't doing a good job at what they said was so important to them. WiS. It was a terrible project that never should of been released in that state.