EVE General Discussion

And here are todays sisi changes to barges.


Eat your hearts out.

But you will be ABLE to tank a Machinaw, it will have much more EHP than it does now.

yield bonus on the hulk is nice.
retriever never had a 30k ore bay anyway, it has been 28k for the last few days now, the 50% bonus dropped to 25% but it got an extra 2.5k base ore bay increase anyway.
mining crystal change was a few days ago unless crystals are now like 12.5m3?

yeah that's an unimportant t1 crystal that was 15m3 a few days ago, these aren't new changes.
t2 crystals (the only ones any one gives a **** about) were originally 50m3, hence two reductions in size would put them at 12.5m3 but obviously that hasn't happened and this is old news.

That would be great. I'd love to see how many JF Pilots get dead to faction police. (I've seen 4-5 make it to real KBs).
How many mission runners/ratters get dead to rats.
And how many miners get embarrassingly dead to rats.

Anyway, look at Bat Country's KB for the Ice interdictions.

(Oh, and I bet you the people who gank on gank alts don't care one whit about kb stats, since those don't really transfer)

My God, do you seriously believe that the so-called "OTEC" has that much of a hold on everyone? Do you seriously believe that everyone in this game is so credulous, so blinkered, so stupid as to allow themselves to be forced into this as the "only" option -- in an open-world sandbox?

Advice: If you want to convince your audience of something, then it helps not to disrespect their intelligence that blatantly.

My manufacturing/invention character -- as in, building Hulks, among other T II stuff -- would beg to differ, in any case.

(And no, I'm not a shill for them: I despise those fart-bags just as much as you lot seem to, although I suspect my reasons are rather different.)

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See, that's the whole point I've been trying to make:

You carebears always choose to be victims, and then always bleat about how you're somehow entitled to being protected from consequences of same without having to take any steps to protect/help yourselves, which are all easy, readily available to everyone, and far too numerous to list here, even if they hadn't already been being listed for the last 90-odd pages. And in the forums for the last 8-odd years.

But just because you choose to be a victim, doesn't mean everyone else does -- a proper miner would shudder in revulsion at the concept; Yes, there still are some! -- nor yet is everyone else obligated to sacrifice gameplay so you can continue to be safe on your greasy fear-sweat-dripping/stinking pedestal of sanctimonious victim-hood.

EVE is a game about taking your safety, business, and fun into your own hands.

If you can't/won't handle that, then there are plenty of bland, safe, easy MMOs out there, go play them, and quit trying to turn EVE into another one like them. There's a reason so many are going/have gone free-to-play/pay-to-win, if they weren't before.

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The irony of course being that if you know so from mining firsthand you are in fact a carebear yourself, and if you don't you are a theorycrafter, which is much worse.

Just a friendly little reminder to everyone, please post constructively and politely. Thanks

i assume you've not tried tanking a triple bs rat spawn in 0.0 with a hulk have you? it's not exactly like running a level 2 in a drake...

Wait, so you're actually complaining that high security is a haven for carebears?

If you don't like carebear gameplay, most of the New Eden is in Null Sec so you can go there.