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Fractional Aggression
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WSixsmith
The Association
#1 - 2012-07-28 00:22:07 UTC
I did a search first and didn't find anything relating to this so here goes.

Fractional Aggression.

When you don your a**hat and go in the belts and bump miners around while you are snug in your npc corp. Each Bump counts towards full aggression. Say, 5 bumps traveling at speeds over 800 m/s per second in a 5 minute time period and you incur aggression from the person you are bumping. At least then the miners can do something instead of getting ridden like a rented mule.

What are your thoughts?
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2012-07-28 00:32:34 UTC
Lmao, thats hilarious.

So you want to be able to shoot people for being annoying? ^^

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WSixsmith
The Association
#3 - 2012-07-28 00:44:03 UTC
When the dude follows you from system to system and bumps you off the objective even when you warp out and then warp back in. It goes a little beyond annoying. He is actively working to deny you resources and you have no way of answering the challenge.
NiGhTTraX
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-28 01:06:52 UTC
ROFL sorry OP for laughing at your pain, but LMAO

Now that I'm over it, this is a bad idea. Firstly, I can bump you very easily by flying slower than 800m/s, might take a bit longer but I'll get the job done. So the limit would have to be lowered. Then, think of Jita, where hundreds of players undock at the same time and get bumped every 0.18 secs. Everyone would get aggressed and you couldn't blame it on the goons.

Another thing. Let's say I see a lonely miner in a belt. Normally I would flipcan him or bait him with a can and hope he takes what's inside. Now all I have to do is bump him 5 times and wait for him to aggro back. Can I hear tears?

Maybe CCP in their balancing endeavors could give mining barges and exhumers more mass so they can't easily bumped. Not impossible, just not as easy.

And if you want to take matters into your own hands, bring a friend with you and bump him back. Maybe he'll aggro and you can get a killmail. EVE is a social engine. Make friends. Fight back.

If you're gonna post here thinking your idea is the greatest thing since bacon and that it will save EVE and possibly all humankind with it, you're gonna have a bad time.
WSixsmith
The Association
#5 - 2012-07-28 02:18:34 UTC
First off a guy moving sub 800 m/s would have a very hard time bumping a moving Miner anywhere, anytime soon.

Second when you undock in Jita you don't start bumping until you start warping. CCP could set it so that you need to have a prop mod active to trigger the Fractional Aggro.

You would have to choose to hit the mwd or the A/b on the undock and run into people and even then it would be the guys who choose to run around like an idiot at the undock who would turn red. The guys undocking in an orderly fashion and choosing not to hit the mwd/AB would be completely fine.

If the miner is looking for pew pew and takes the bait. Be it a flipped can or a bump that's still his choice. At least now if you do harass a miner in a system with the silly bumping from an npc corp then the miner would either A be able to tackle the bumper or B have friends come in an attempt to deal with the dude.

The point is, the bumper goes in an npc corp and agresses in this fashion and there is no game mechanic to deal with it.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#6 - 2012-07-28 03:54:03 UTC
What is this crap?
WSixsmith
The Association
#7 - 2012-07-28 16:01:11 UTC
This Crap is what 80% of the Eve population has to deal with while you Null sec boys fight over who has the biggest e-peen.
Kitt JT
True North.
#8 - 2012-07-28 22:15:06 UTC
You realize threads like this are EXACTLY why they do that stuff right?
WSixsmith
The Association
#9 - 2012-07-28 22:44:09 UTC
Well, They were doing it before this thread got started so I'm not gonna worry about the griefers, they are already here. I'm just looking for options. I did like the one guys post on adding extra mass to the Miners. Especially if they are going to have the same defense as a BS they might as well have the same mass.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-07-28 22:56:50 UTC
WSixsmith wrote:
Well, They were doing it before this thread got started so I'm not gonna worry about the griefers, they are already here. I'm just looking for options. I did like the one guys post on adding extra mass to the Miners. Especially if they are going to have the same defense as a BS they might as well have the same mass.

Adding mass would **** up wormholes. Please don't.