These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Player Features and Ideas Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Faction Battlecruisers
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
#1 - 2012-07-21 15:43:26 UTC
Faction Battlecruisers,


with the pvp in losec flaring up due to the FW fixes some new Battlecruisers might be helpfull for PvE or PvP Bear


Only implement after the Drake rebalance imho.


Faction BC should be +50% EHP and +1 either low slot or medium slot.

Use a standard tech 1 hull, no new art, but reskin it with V3 for pirate and/or navy skin.

Eve online is :

A) mining simulator B) glorified chatroom C) spreadsheets online

D) CCP Games Pay to Win at skill leveling, with instant gratification

http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg

http://bit.ly/1egr4mF
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#2 - 2012-07-21 15:47:16 UTC
I just want a Blood Raider skin for my Prophecy. It doesn't have to actually be better...
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#3 - 2012-07-22 00:26:40 UTC
What role or purpose are these new ships filling, exactly?

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-22 03:31:33 UTC
Honestly, I'd like to see (pirate) faction destroyers and battlecruisers either focus on the electronic warfare aspects of of the pirate corporations/factions that the current ship set do not cover or focus more on different combat aspects of the pirate corporations/factions.

One example of what I wouldn't mind seeing is a Guristas destroyer with a bonus to 5%/level bonus to shield resistances, a 5%/level bonus to drone EW strength and durability or launcher rate of fire, and a role bonus along the lines of 50% boost to ECM strength and optimal range. Combine it with 5 mid slots (equal to the flycatcher) and a 40-50m3 drone bay (25mb bandwidth) and you'll have a nice combination drone/ECM platform for small gangs. It also makes it unique as the only ship in the game that benefits non-"combat" drones in ways other than just more HP.

Another example would be a Guristas ferox with the standard 5%/level shield resistance bonus along with a 5%/level bonus to heavy and heavy assault launcher rate of fire, and a 50% boost to heavy, heavy assault, and light missile velocity for its role bonus. Combine it with removing all the feroxes turret hardpoints, moving a high slot to a low or mid slot, and upping the drone bay to 75m3 and the bandwidth to 50mb.

The current Guristas ships players can fly don't really focus on anything and ignore the ECM-tastic nature of Guristas NPCs. These suggested variants would provide a solid DPS slugger that doesn't rely on drones as well as an ECM platform that toes the line with the current "Guristas = drones" stance in such a way as to augment the ship's role as an EW platform.

Just my $.02 on this dead horse though.
Saul Elsyn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-22 04:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Saul Elsyn
Well, the skins already exist... I mean we see npc tier 1 battlecruisers scattered throughout the game already, it's just there's no playable pirate battlecruiser (though some factions really do deserve to have a new battlecruiser model, I mean... look, the Sansha need more in game models, there's what... four sub cap models that are used to represent everything?)

As an experiment I ran through and made up a couple stats for various ship classes to represent the pirate ships we don't have access to... here's a couple examples from the Battlecruisers I've done. All the stats are based roughly on the difference between normal cruisers and pirate cruisers... each faction has a specific set of bonuses that all ships in that faction seem to share.

I'd personally like to see every single npc design eventually available... the other Sansha frigate (I call it an Incubus) for example looks like it'd be a lot of fun to fly. I'd love to see the Serpentis Solveteur-class Titan make a reappearance... imagine that blueprint's LP requirements! lol.

Guristas Mamba-class Battlecruiser
CPU: 520 teraflops
Powergrid: 925 megawatts

Slot Configuration:
4x Low Slots
7x Mid Slots
6x High Slots

Hardpoints:
2x Turret Hardpoints
6x Missile Hardpoints

Drones:
Drone Bandwidth: 125 MHz
Drone Bay: 625 m3

Shields:
Hit-points: 8,300
Recharge Time: 1,400 seconds
EM Resistance: 0%
Explosive Resistance: 50%
Kinetic Resistance: 20%
Thermal Resistance: 40%

Armor:
Hit-points: 5,980
EM Resistance: 50%
Explosive Resistance: 10%
Kinetic Resistance: 25%
Thermal Resistance: 45%

Structure:
Hit-points: 6,380
Mass: 10,340,000 kg

Mobility:
Max Velocity: 140 m/sec

Developed by the Guristas as a modification kit to the standard Caldari Ferox design, repeated engagements with the Mamba-class are rumored to have been the inspiration for the development of the Drake-class Battlecruiser. Combining shockingly long range for a missile boat and hard hitting gallente style drone damage, the ship is among the most dangerous in the Guristas arsenal.

Special Ability: 50% bonus to Heavy Missile, Heavy Assault Missile, and Light Missile Velocity.

Caldari Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% shield resistance per level.
Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to drone damage and hit-points per skill level.

Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU need of Warfare Link Modules.

Sansha Wraith-class Battlecruiser
CPU: 480 teraflops
Powergrid: 1,600 megawatts

Slot Configuration:
3x Low Slots
6x Mid Slots
8x High Slots

Hardpoints:
5x Turret Hardpoints

Drones:
Drone Bandwidth: 15 MHz
Drone Bay: 15 m3

Shields:
Hit-points: 8,000
Recharge Time: 2,330 seconds
EM Resistance: 0%
Explosive Resistance: 50%
Kinetic Resistance: 20%
Thermal Resistance: 40%

Armor:
Hit-points: 7,150
EM Resistance: 50%
Explosive Resistance: 20%
Kinetic Resistance: 25%
Thermal Resistance: 35%

Structure:
Hit-points: 6,850
Mass: 10,450,000 kg

Mobility:
Max Velocity: 128 m/sec

A devastating surprise to capsuleers when first encountered, the Wraith-class is a dedicated battle platform quite capable of destroying almost anything that opposes it. Many a pilot has had nightmares of encountering this beast. Often operating as the command vessel for formations of Phantasm-class Cruisers, and Succubus-class and Incubus-class Frigates the Wraith is a threat alone, but a truly devastating opponent as command ship of Sansha fleets.

Special Ability: 100% bonus to Medium Energy Turret Damage.

Amarr Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Small Energy Turret Tracking per level.
Caldari Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Small Energy Turret Damage per level.

Role Bonus: 99% reduction in CPU need of Warfare Link Modules.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#6 - 2012-07-22 11:05:25 UTC
Shereza wrote:
Honestly, I'd like to see (pirate) faction destroyers and battlecruisers either focus on the electronic warfare aspects of of the pirate corporations/factions that the current ship set do not cover or focus more on different combat aspects of the pirate corporations/factions.

One example of what I wouldn't mind seeing is a Guristas destroyer with a bonus to 5%/level bonus to shield resistances, a 5%/level bonus to drone EW strength and durability or launcher rate of fire, and a role bonus along the lines of 50% boost to ECM strength and optimal range. Combine it with 5 mid slots (equal to the flycatcher) and a 40-50m3 drone bay (25mb bandwidth) and you'll have a nice combination drone/ECM platform for small gangs. It also makes it unique as the only ship in the game that benefits non-"combat" drones in ways other than just more HP.

Another example would be a Guristas ferox with the standard 5%/level shield resistance bonus along with a 5%/level bonus to heavy and heavy assault launcher rate of fire, and a 50% boost to heavy, heavy assault, and light missile velocity for its role bonus. Combine it with removing all the feroxes turret hardpoints, moving a high slot to a low or mid slot, and upping the drone bay to 75m3 and the bandwidth to 50mb.

The current Guristas ships players can fly don't really focus on anything and ignore the ECM-tastic nature of Guristas NPCs. These suggested variants would provide a solid DPS slugger that doesn't rely on drones as well as an ECM platform that toes the line with the current "Guristas = drones" stance in such a way as to augment the ship's role as an EW platform.

Just my $.02 on this dead horse though.

The idea of high-EHP ECM boats is pretty bad, even the scorpion is pretty difficult to get a particularly good tank on. And with good reason.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Ganthrithor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-22 11:09:18 UTC
Pirate battlecruisers. Yes please. I, too, want a faster Sleipnir.