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Is this game for morons only?

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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#141 - 2012-07-20 03:21:37 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
0/10

WoW is that way --->

EVE is not for you

etc etc etc



LMAO...got a good laugh for the day.

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Lyskal Oskold
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#142 - 2012-07-20 03:24:09 UTC
Silly OP. You need to start a conversation with the assailant and then link your Multipass. Then they can't lock onto your ship for 30 minutes.

You're all mean trolls for not just telling them.

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Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#143 - 2012-07-20 04:11:42 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here


When you undock from a station you are consenting to take part in pvp whether in 0.0, lowsec or highsec. There is no feature designed to prevent aggression from other players... other than docking.


I wish CCP would put a pop up that would say just that so all n00bs would get it.

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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#144 - 2012-07-20 04:46:11 UTC
Merovee wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here


When you undock from a station you are consenting to take part in pvp whether in 0.0, lowsec or highsec. There is no feature designed to prevent aggression from other players... other than docking.


I wish CCP would put a pop up that would say just that so all n00bs would get it.

There's only so many ways it can be hinted at.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

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Interstellar Services Department
TharOkha
0asis Group
#145 - 2012-07-20 06:25:58 UTC
Well i dont know if you are troll or just noob. So im not going to btching you so here are some hints.

-Do not mine in main trade hub area, even 5j from those hubs are dangerous.
- search dotlan maps and find yourself quiet and "safe" space to mine. (Derelik for example.)

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Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#146 - 2012-07-20 06:30:14 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed by idiotic players, mostly noobs, which are just wasting my time and spoiling any fun. I'm relatively new myself, just getting into the mining and building side of things, and if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec. But while I'm not in the mood for fighting, I stay in the hisec and surely there must be a setting or something, that prohibits others to force me into a fight there (well, I usually mine there, so it's just a matter of them shooting me really, not a fight really). It's not even being blown up that's annoying or loosing a ship, it's cheap to replace, but the time wasted in getting blown up (obviously you get webbed and then it takes them 10-20 minutes to destroy a retriever, because they are inept) and wasted in replacing it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.


Don't engage them when they flip your can. If they open fire on you without you having fired at them, Concord will come along and give them a forced enema.
black cree
Utopian Research I.E.L.
#147 - 2012-07-20 07:31:46 UTC
Confirming this game is for morons only, myself included.
Roisin Corcra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#148 - 2012-07-20 07:55:21 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Well i dont know if you are troll or just noob. So im not going to btching you so here are some hints.

-Do not mine in main trade hub area, even 5j from those hubs are dangerous.
- search dotlan maps and find yourself quiet and "safe" space to mine. (Derelik for example.)


Just a noob. The dotlan thing is quite useful, wish I had that two weeks ago. Mind you, I'm not taking this game that serious, just trying it out, it's supposed to be fun. But I'm getting the distinct impression that everyone is rather serious, focused and intense, you know, the sort of thing I'd expect at work. Then again, I never could figure out, when someone is doing role playing stupid talk and when it's just real person moronic, may be that's were I go wrong. Bring back games without a chat option!
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#149 - 2012-07-20 08:38:40 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
TharOkha wrote:
Well i dont know if you are troll or just noob. So im not going to btching you so here are some hints.

-Do not mine in main trade hub area, even 5j from those hubs are dangerous.
- search dotlan maps and find yourself quiet and "safe" space to mine. (Derelik for example.)


Just a noob. The dotlan thing is quite useful, wish I had that two weeks ago. Mind you, I'm not taking this game that serious, just trying it out, it's supposed to be fun. But I'm getting the distinct impression that everyone is rather serious, focused and intense, you know, the sort of thing I'd expect at work. Then again, I never could figure out, when someone is doing role playing stupid talk and when it's just real person moronic, may be that's were I go wrong. Bring back games without a chat option!



No, spaceships are serious business. EVE is only fun when you crap on someone else's sand castle then kick it in their face.

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#150 - 2012-07-20 08:48:03 UTC
Maybe the OP should get into hisec Planetary Interaction instead of mining?
Dave Stark
#151 - 2012-07-20 08:50:22 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Merovee wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here


When you undock from a station you are consenting to take part in pvp whether in 0.0, lowsec or highsec. There is no feature designed to prevent aggression from other players... other than docking.


I wish CCP would put a pop up that would say just that so all n00bs would get it.

There's only so many ways it can be hinted at.


that bar that comes up with the undock progress needs a little message like; "undocking; you're going to be shot at" simple. every one is warned, every time they undock.
Psichotic
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#152 - 2012-07-20 10:19:53 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
Anybody please tell me, how to play this game without constantly getting harassed ... it is really turning me of this game (aside from the fact, that it takes months before you can fly any halfway decent ship).

So, anybody can tell me either way, is there a setting or something, where I can stop those morons? If not, is it actually the intention of this game to do this? If so, I'm out of here, I have to deal with enough morons in real life, and I couldn't be bothered to do so and call it "entertainment". There is other better games out there, some are even free. To think I was even considering getting a second account on the current special offer - uugh.

To answer your question, yes, it's actually the game developers intention to build Eve the way it is.

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler


I think it is a game directed at social rejects. Personally I like the challenge because it is so complex, but there are very very few people in Eve that have any desire to be challenged. Most want to make up for their failures in life by winning in a video game, which is why they like uneven fights as opposed to true competition where one has the possibility of losing. These aren't dumb people, they're just broken.

As for me, I enjoy the SciFi aspect, the complexity of the game, and the ability to have massive space battles. I do not enjoy being around people who like being "worried and slightly angry". Unfortunately it comes with the territory.
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#153 - 2012-07-20 10:21:38 UTC
Psichotic wrote:

I think it is a game directed at social rejects. Personally I like the challenge because it is so complex, but there are very very few people in Eve that have any desire to be challenged. Most want to make up for their failures in life by winning in a video game, which is why they like uneven fights as opposed to true competition where one has the possibility of losing. These aren't dumb people, they're just broken.

As for me, I enjoy the SciFi aspect, the complexity of the game, and the ability to have massive space battles. I do not enjoy being around people who like being "worried and slightly angry". Unfortunately it comes with the territory.

Interesting view ... coming from a Psichotic.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#154 - 2012-07-20 10:28:59 UTC
Roisin Corcra wrote:
if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec.


Let me stop you right there. This game isn't for you, end of story, move on. You aren't safe in EVE, ever, not even in high sec. Either you accept that or you walk away, it's as simple as that.
feihcsiM
THE B0YS
#155 - 2012-07-20 10:33:28 UTC
Mine in a noob (starter) system.

They have a blanket ban on shenanigans Sad

Don't expect good isk/h

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#156 - 2012-07-20 10:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: dexington
Psichotic wrote:
Most want to make up for their failures in life by winning in a video game, which is why they like uneven fights as opposed to true competition where one has the possibility of losing. These aren't dumb people, they're just broken.


Projection bias?

Eve is not modeled on some middle age romantic notion of honor and valor, where gallant knights duel in hopes of winning the heart of the princess. In real life if you are about to get into a bar fight, and the other guy tells you that he think you should go outside and finish it. You really should stay inside, chances are he just wants to get you in a situation where he and his friends will have the advantage of numbers.

That is how eve is.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#157 - 2012-07-20 10:53:02 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
Roisin Corcra wrote:
if I want to fight anyone, I'll go into the lowsec.


Let me stop you right there. This game isn't for you, end of story, move on. You aren't safe in EVE, ever, not even in high sec. Either you accept that or you walk away, it's as simple as that.


Even in your captain's quarters you're not safe, there's a small chance you can fall through the floor and fall forever. So I'd even be careful with walking away...
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#158 - 2012-07-20 10:55:36 UTC
feihcsiM wrote:
Mine in a noob (starter) system.

They have a blanket ban on shenanigans Sad


Once the character reaches a certain age, CCP will not protect them in a starter system.

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#159 - 2012-07-20 11:26:30 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:


You assume wrong. I mostly stay in hi-sec now because I have had enough of pvp, but I have played the game since June '03 and have done a bit of everything. Yes, you can find ways into low sec but most areas near highly populated hi-sec space is gate camped for the most part. 'Theme park area', just love the catch phrases you drones use. As to the OP, best advice for almost any problem in EVE is finding the right corporation to do things with, including hi-sec activities, pvp roams (low and high) or whatever you want. Doing anything alone is always more dangerous.


Well, if you're dumb enough to take the fastest, bottle neck route to low sec, then yes. But there are many back doors into low and null. Stop letting the computer make a route for you, try... thinking.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Psichotic
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#160 - 2012-07-20 11:44:18 UTC
dexington wrote:
Eve is not modeled on some middle age romantic notion of honor and valor, where gallant knights duel in hopes of winning the heart of the princess. In real life if you are about to get into a bar fight, and the other guy tells you that he think you should go outside and finish it. You really should stay inside, chances are he just wants to get you in a situation where he and his friends will have the advantage of numbers.

That is how eve is.

It sounds like you speak from experience. Personally I have a CCW, so unlike Eve, I would only have to fight if I chose to. However, if you're going to carry a gun you have to be prepared to use it, and unlike Eve, people don't get dropped into a new clone body after they die. They just die. So I would say comparing real life to Eve is apples to oranges. Anyway, I think there is a very big gap between strict adherence to chivalrous rules of combat and justifying the snake in the grass tactics a lot of people use in Eve. Those are extremes. Somewhere in the middle is a realistic balance, and it is achieved quite well in most video games, to the mutual benefit of the players and the publishers.