EVE General Discussion

This forum is in big part to blame why people are not willing to go and try PVP. There is just a small part of PVP community that know how to explain and invite people to PVP properly .The other sadly much bigger part is acting like 12 year old kids with bad taste for jokes and stream of insults in their posts.

Mostly you see a lot of chest-beating how they will burn god him self ,but case is majority of them are just carried by people leading gangs.It is even worse when players from big alliances start to preach wisdom and most of them are just shooting what FC says,and that ask for almost no PVP skill apart from knowing how to track fleet announcement.

Don't get me wrong ,it is game and this is PVP game ,but no one like to play with pricks.It is sad that low sec is mostly empty but maybe people that represent that part of EVE on this forums are doing exactly opposite to help low sec.Pissing player off instead showing how much fun they have, and that loosing ship can sometime make you more happy than making tons of isk to fly pimped up mission runner.

Hmm. My alliance is at war, but not many people stands up to fight. From kill reports, I see that I cannot go against these guys without at least 3 people.
I can't do pvp at lowsec, because I'm low on money (cruisers and above not optional) and hence prefer frigates and destroyers. Without scanning, the only place I can seek out PvP in this state is by waiting for someone to attack me, since the gate guns would 1-shot me.
That leaves only nullsec for me to duke it out. I may try it, but that would leave me only frigates to use, and I'm not trained enough to get into tier 2 guns.
I may try just to get blown though.
How quick would an Amarr frig get picked in nullsec? Probably in seconds.
Also I would lose my pod out there. I can always get my pod out at lowsec, but I'm not so sure about nullsec. I have 2 +3 inplants but still.

As you can see, PvP without other people seems pointless for me.
Really, the answer to this question for many is "The circumstances aren't right." I listed mine here. What are yours?

Fair enough. Then the question is Will you Whine on EvE-O saying it's broken or will you accept that not shooting back is your choice?

If Whine: Then you're mistaken about what EvE is.
If Accept: Then you understand EvE and are playing it right.

Nobody that I consider reasonable has any actual objection to people being carebears and avoiding combat. The objection is to those people whining on the forums and ultimately pressuring CCP into changing the game to suit them.

When I did PvP I really noticed this too. It seems most EVE players really don't know how to PvP beyond lock primary F1. And if you can get the drop on them alone they fumble and just generally explode without even realizing what just happened. Maybe thats why everyone seems to hate frigates, not enough time to react...

I'm not the type to whine about so-called broken game mechanics simply because I don't like them. I do however reply to posts and questions honestly and with how I truly feel. If a situation arises or is covered that really needs to be addressed and I'm asked for my opinion, I will give it. No threats from anyone will prevent that.

Fair enough.

I never said (or meant to imply) that you should withhold your opinion. It's just that many of the posters whining about getting ganked are demonstrably uninformed about the nature or mechanics of the game that they're calling broken. From the sound of it, you're not uninformed about the nature of the game, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

Ignore all the PvPers saying "They are afraid of losing their stuff/they are just wussies/etc." For me, it is an ISK problem. Yes I am "afraid" to lose my stuff, but that is because I don't have the ability to replace my ships on a constant basis. For someone new to PvP it can also be a daunting task, knowing that you could either go into solo roams and fight people who know how to fit a ship far better than you, with a much more significant knowledge of tactics. I made a PvP alt and quickly got annoyed with it (even in RvB) since the only 1v1s I could find were against people in t2 frigs. At the beginning, it is not fun at all to get lollerstomped.

When I did RvB, every time I asked for a T1 Frig 1v1, I got exactly that. I won a few, lost a few, and drew a few (some people don't fit points on their 1v1 frigs. Beating a 2x SAR Cap boosted Punisher's tank is pretty daunting, and yet, you can't lose either).

How original, a badposter taking quotes out of context.

Just to save your poor mind, I'll repeat some of the context here.



Carebear whining has, off the top of my head, caused at least a half dozen CONCORD buffs, an Insurance nerf, and a legal tactic being declared an exploit 7 years after it was discovered (and after the introduction of a ship seemingly designed for the tactic: the ship was shaped for the tactic's name ffs).

In fact, I can't think of a single time when ganking was made easier overall (i.e. Buff without accompanying nerf).

Well...i allways wonder, why are there so many Gate camps? If i read forums, there are tons of "hardcore" pvp´er around, but nobody seems to attack the gate campers, and the are easy to find....

So much for the "pvpér", all you want is easy, riskfree ganking, nothing else.