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New Ore Frig? Why not two?
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Larissa Shondi
Quantum Explosion
#1 - 2012-07-10 17:14:55 UTC
So we see with the upcoming mining ship changes that there will be a new ship in the line, the ORE Frigate.

This small frigate designed for "quick operations in hostile space." Is perfect for something currently missing in the game.

A gas miner ship.

If you were to give the ore frig five turret slots, make a t2 version specially designed for gas harvesting, give it a decent sized gas bay, something. But give those wormholers and ladar hunters a specialized ship!

Make it t2, make two t1 ships, whatever. But don't pass up this oppurtunity! :D
Daria Meridian Carlile
Necromatic Inc.
#2 - 2012-07-10 19:03:14 UTC
There are plenty of ships capable of gas harvesting, but i would love to see a dedicated gas harvester. +1
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#3 - 2012-07-10 19:09:15 UTC
Boxless
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-10 19:33:40 UTC
Why would anyone need a quick bit of ore in hostile space?

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Daria Meridian Carlile
Necromatic Inc.
#5 - 2012-07-10 19:52:10 UTC
Boxless wrote:
Why would anyone need a quick bit of ore in hostile space?


Gas, not ore...
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#6 - 2012-07-10 20:04:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Grey Azorria
Daria Meridian Carlile wrote:
Boxless wrote:
Why would anyone need a quick bit of ore in hostile space?


Gas, not ore...

Pretty sure that was about the confirmed T1 version...

Also I think CCP are considering modifying one of the Procurer (maybe Retriever, memory is a bit fuzzy) hulls to be a gas miner.

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leviticus ander
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-07-10 23:04:03 UTC
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Any idea when these ore frigs will appear in the game?

it sounds like the winter expansion is supposed to be the industry expansion.
Steel Mack
Ruritania Corp.
#8 - 2012-07-13 17:23:18 UTC
I like the idea of a T2 ORE frig gas miner, too. Small signature, and fast . Since frigs top out at 4 high slots, let's give it a role bonus of +25% to gas harvester output to make up the difference. A dedicated gas bay, yes. ORE frig skill bonus say, 2% to harvester output per level?
Rilen Endoran
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-07-13 17:30:22 UTC
Larissa Shondi wrote:
So we see with the upcoming mining ship changes that there will be a new ship in the line, the ORE Frigate.

This small frigate designed for "quick operations in hostile space." Is perfect for something currently missing in the game.

A gas miner ship.

If you were to give the ore frig five turret slots, make a t2 version specially designed for gas harvesting, give it a decent sized gas bay, something. But give those wormholers and ladar hunters a specialized ship!

Make it t2, make two t1 ships, whatever. But don't pass up this oppurtunity! :D


Loving this idea! Takes so long to mine gas. =/
Plaude Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-13 21:09:53 UTC
Boxless wrote:
Why would anyone need a quick bit of ore in hostile space?

Small corps without the resources to live in null-sec would be able to get some quick WH-mining ops to get a bit of null-sec ore and then haul it out with ease and without risking any high-value ships in the process.

I'm all for getting a specialized Gas-Harvesting Ship. It's the only branch of Industry without a dedicated ship.

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serras bang
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-14 10:28:14 UTC
ill back this a specalised gas miner as there is none however shouldnt impact on new frig or existing barge a new small ship would be usefull.
Xaric Dreklore
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-08-08 09:04:43 UTC
what would its name of ship class would be for it?
Vaal Hadren
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-08-08 11:02:00 UTC
Xaric Dreklore wrote:
what would its name of ship class would be for it?


A Harvester
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#14 - 2012-08-08 16:32:01 UTC
Wait, don't gas clouds do random damage to ships? o.O;
Why would you want a flimsy frigate to be a gas miner? >.>
"Typical damage caused by a gas cloud is up to 1000 damage every minute." (source)

Furthermore, aren't we losing dedicated ice/ore barges?
Doesn't that make a gas miner a bit odd?

I say ORE (the corp/class of ships) needs to come out with a strip gas miner module that can only fit to barges. Then any of the barges, true mining ships, can effectively mine gases. Make the ice/ore bonus an ice/ore/gas bonus too.


As for the T2 version of the frigate, make it the ultimate ninja miner. >:}
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-08 16:58:04 UTC
Obsidiana wrote:
Wait, don't gas clouds do random damage to ships? o.O;
Why would you want a flimsy frigate to be a gas miner? >.>
"Typical damage caused by a gas cloud is up to 1000 damage every minute." (source)


Those are only for nullsec ones. The wormhole clouds don't damage you.
Nakri Noban
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-08-08 21:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nakri Noban
i see people wanting ORE ships to harvest gas when its SYNDICATE thats sells faction gas harvesters wouldn't it make more sense for them to be the ones designed such a ship? ORE has little to no involvement in gas industry as it stands and i can not see any reason for that to change also SYNDICATE faction shop really needs something new to spice it up a bit as things is at the moment
Obsidiana
Atrament Inc.
#17 - 2012-08-09 02:33:15 UTC
Nakri Noban wrote:
i see people wanting ORE ships to harvest gas when its SYNDICATE thats sells faction gas harvesters wouldn't it make more sense for them to be the ones designed such a ship? ORE has little to no involvement in gas industry as it stands and i can not see any reason for that to change also SYNDICATE faction shop really needs something new to spice it up a bit as things is at the moment


That's a good idea. I have long waned more faction ships (e.g. SoE scan ships, Thukker BS, etc.) A mining ship from the Sydicate would make a lot of sense.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-08-09 02:48:05 UTC
Honestly, while I'd like to see a range of mining frigates I'd like to see them more along the lines of:
Assault miner - 3-4 high slots, 2-3 turret hardpoints, launcher hardpoint, and/or 30m3 drone bay with 15mb bandwidth.
Bulk miner - 2-3 high slots, 2 turret hardpoints, 2,000m3 ore hold.
Long-range/yield miner - 2-3 high slots, 2 turret hardpoints, bonuses to laser range and yield.

That would give you a bit of room to work with within the ORE Frigate environment.
Nakri Noban
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-08-09 22:14:52 UTC
Obsidiana wrote:
Nakri Noban wrote:
i see people wanting ORE ships to harvest gas when its SYNDICATE thats sells faction gas harvesters wouldn't it make more sense for them to be the ones designed such a ship? ORE has little to no involvement in gas industry as it stands and i can not see any reason for that to change also SYNDICATE faction shop really needs something new to spice it up a bit as things is at the moment


That's a good idea. I have long waned more faction ships (e.g. SoE scan ships, Thukker BS, etc.) A mining ship from the Sydicate would make a lot of sense.


wasn't so much because i wanted more faction ship (but i do) as with wanting it to stick to the ingame lore

and i agree with the SoE scan ship idea it would be nice maybe specialized hacking/acheology ships etc.
those would want a lot of CPU for those modules