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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#1 - 2012-07-09 09:14:14 UTC
What is the time that a corp needs to set up properly so that it can have daily ops and stuff.

Any tips on recruitment threads?

I just started a corp and its very difficult to get players let alone experience players, i guess nobody wants the hassle of helping to start a solid corp. I guess i am the only one taking on this challenge, well there's 3 of us now.

Also is it attractive for hardcore eve players that my corp will definitely have a strong dust side.

Thx in advance for your responses


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Pipa Porto
#2 - 2012-07-09 09:24:34 UTC
What do you wan't to do with the Corp?

That's kind of the biggest thing when you're starting.

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-09 09:30:42 UTC
Dust isnt properly out yet and it has yet to be seen how much of a cross over there really is going to be, and to what degree. People are going to wait n see on that front.

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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#4 - 2012-07-09 09:33:38 UTC
Well it has to serve as a cash cow for our Dust endeavors but also want to give the hardcore eve player a great experience.

This corp is founded from a clan that was on PS3 and wants to spread into more since dust is coming out.

And i think we will need some experience players for PvP in eve and orbital strikes delivered through eve into the dust side.

So.....

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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#5 - 2012-07-09 09:34:58 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Dust isnt properly out yet and it has yet to be seen how much of a cross over there really is going to be, and to what degree. People are going to wait n see on that front.



I know that but from what i know now, features will opened bit by bit until its fully opened

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#6 - 2012-07-09 09:37:35 UTC
The single best piece of advice for starting a corp, IMO, is to hold off doing it until you already have a decently sized group of like-minded friends. A corp has to start with a community, or it likely won't ever go much farther than being a failed patchwork of corp-hoppers and non-contributors.
Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#7 - 2012-07-09 09:40:40 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
The single best piece of advice for starting a corp, IMO, is to hold off doing it until you already have a decently sized group of like-minded friends. A corp has to start with a community, or it likely won't ever go much farther than being a failed patchwork of corp-hoppers and non-contributors.


I thought some one would say that and i agree with this, we are to few at this moment. But even corps with only up to 20 people have hard times so i guess i will also have to persevere a bit, i know there are still some people coming in, just have to wait for them.

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Mme Pinkerton
#8 - 2012-07-09 09:42:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Mme Pinkerton
Preacher Garra wrote:

Any tips on recruitment threads?

Why does EVE need yet another corp?
What are existing corporations doing wrong that you can do better?

If you have good answers to these questions you will find recruits.

If your only answer is "I am the most awesome CEO you will ever have" you have a problem as people can only verify that statement after having joined you - but you might still grow as you achieve notoriety.

If you don't have any answer, then why are you creating a corporation in the first place?

edit:
The most common mistake new corporations make is that they are afraid to lose potential applicants and instead try to cater to every possible gamestyle - they would be better off finding a (relatively) unoccupied niche (think along the lines of "Finnish corporations that specialize in BlackOps warfare") and sticking with it.

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Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-07-09 09:50:12 UTC
Im afraid I think going at it at teh angle "building a corp that will support our Dust play" is probably a bad idea, people dont want a corp that supports something else, they want a corp that is built for its members.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#10 - 2012-07-09 09:50:57 UTC
Mme Pinkerton wrote:
Preacher Garra wrote:

Any tips on recruitment threads?

Why does EVE need yet another corp?
What are existing corporations doing wrong that you can do better?

If you have good answers to these questions you will find recruits.

If your only answer is "I am the most awesome CEO you will ever have" you have a problem as people can only verify that statement after having joined you - but you might still grow as you achieve notoriety.

If you don't have any answer, then why are you creating a corporation in the first place?


Well ask yourself this then? What is the eve universe gonna do with all those dust corps that will have a eve side.

The only thing that i can come up with is that we will want to offer PvP runs in low and null sec to cover our dust buddies.
Industry and mining ops of course.
We have a TS server and are good people if thats not enough then that's too bad.

What ever happens i will continue with this corp, i just want a lot of feedback.

Thx Mme Pinkerton

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Mme Pinkerton
#11 - 2012-07-09 09:53:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Mme Pinkerton
Preacher Garra wrote:
Well ask yourself this then? What is the eve universe gonna do with all those dust corps that will have a eve side.

The only thing that i can come up with is that we will want to offer PvP runs in low and null sec to cover our dust buddies.
Industry and mining ops of course.
We have a TS server and are good people if thats not enough then that's too bad.

What ever happens i will continue with this corp, i just want a lot of feedback.

Thx Mme Pinkerton

wrote an addition to my original post but re-posting it here for visibility as "Industry and mining ops of course." caught my eye:

The most common mistake new corporations make is that they are afraid to lose potential applicants and instead try to cater to every possible gamestyle - they would be better off finding a (relatively) unoccupied niche (think along the lines of "Finnish corporations that specialize in BlackOps warfare") and sticking with it.

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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#12 - 2012-07-09 09:54:04 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Im afraid I think going at it at teh angle "building a corp that will support our Dust play" is probably a bad idea, people dont want a corp that supports something else, they want a corp that is built for its members.


Well Rico i understand the hardcore EVE player is not interested, but this corp will not be supporting another one, it will be the same corp.

TLN is a console clan that will be in dust and to have some support we will be in eve also. to me it sound kinda logical you would have both sides. the eve side will be the cash cow and diplomatic side of things. But also provide the orbital bombings in the long run.

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Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
#13 - 2012-07-09 09:54:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Stoogie
Best bet is to make sure (as others have said) that you have a group of like minded people who really want to do the same things as you. If you only have a few people or your new to eve and want to pvp try Faction warfare to get the ball rolling because your not just relying on your corp members to be active and motivated. Also if your new to eve as much as you hate the idea joining a bigger corp for 6 months is a better plan or you can just stagnate. You might find you love the new corp and want to help merge your two communities or you'll learn what the corp you joined did right and wrong while hopefully learning from those mistakes.

When I first set up my corp I made a few mistakes and tried to lead a new alliance straight off the bat and it basically built to a 500 man alliance in 2 weeks and fail cascaded back down within 6. I learnt from those mistakes and while I still make some I lead a fairly successful pvp corp in which real life comes first so the amount of people playing ebbs and flows. My other main bit of advice is have a plan cos if you don't have one people have nothing to work towards get bored and either quit or go afk in place.
Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#14 - 2012-07-09 09:55:19 UTC
Mme Pinkerton wrote:
Preacher Garra wrote:
Well ask yourself this then? What is the eve universe gonna do with all those dust corps that will have a eve side.

The only thing that i can come up with is that we will want to offer PvP runs in low and null sec to cover our dust buddies.
Industry and mining ops of course.
We have a TS server and are good people if thats not enough then that's too bad.

What ever happens i will continue with this corp, i just want a lot of feedback.

Thx Mme Pinkerton

wrote an addition to my original post but re-posting it here for visibility as "Industry and mining ops of course." caught my eye:

The most common mistake new corporations make is that they are afraid to lose potential applicants and instead try to cater to every possible gamestyle - they would be better off finding a (relatively) unoccupied niche (think along the lines of "Finnish corporations that specialize in BlackOps warfare") and sticking with it.


Ok i like that that's not a bad idea, i will think about that.

thx there Mme Pinkerton

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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#15 - 2012-07-09 09:57:54 UTC
Stoogie wrote:
Best bet is to make sure (as others have said) that you have a group of like minded people who really want to do the same things as you. If you only have a few people or your new to eve and want to pvp try Faction warfare to get the ball rolling because your not just relying on your corp members to be active and motivated. Also if your new to eve as much as you hate the idea joining a bigger corp for 6 months is a better plan or you can just stagnate. You might find you love the new corp and want to help merge your two communities or you'll learn what the corp you joined did right and wrong while hopefully learning from those mistakes.

When I first set up my corp I made a few mistakes and tried to lead a new alliance straight off the bat and it basically built to a 500 man alliance in 2 weeks and fail cascaded back down within 6. I learnt from those mistakes and while I still make some I lead a fairly successful pvp corp in which real life comes first so the amount of people playing ebbs and flows. My other main bit of advice is have a plan cos if you don't have one people have nothing to work towards get bored and either quit or go afk in place.


Well the corp should not be bigger than 50 people in the end and alliances will be looked for much later in the game. Alliances are hard to lead i know, its a lot of upkeep to take care off.

thx for the advice though,

It starting to look like i have to rethink my strategy here.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#16 - 2012-07-09 10:12:39 UTC
like many of the posters pointed out
you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster
Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill
and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal

Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE

be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out
organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem

But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team

small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting
they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them

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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#17 - 2012-07-09 10:46:36 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
like many of the posters pointed out
you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster
Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill
and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal

Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE

be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out
organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem

But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team

small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting
they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them


Well the people that i delegate some of the tasks to will be people i have known for a while and are to be trusted, new people will have to show loyalty, which i am very big on.

Explain the pos tower thing a bit more, i might have someone that can do that. Also what will it take to get the standing?

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Stoogie
Cadre Assault Force
#18 - 2012-07-09 11:16:52 UTC
basically your corp standings are based off the players in your corp who have been in corp for 7 days. So as your corp grows keeping the standings with one of the 4 nations becomes more difficult. As for grinding standings and how they work I'd sugest the eve wiki or google. Also watch these youtube presentations from a few years ago at fanfest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHAmJtCJDo and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZR41Sgg5Zc&feature=relmfu
pussnheels
Viziam
#19 - 2012-07-09 11:25:03 UTC
Preacher Garra wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
like many of the posters pointed out
you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster
Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill
and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal

Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE

be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out
organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem

But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team

small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting
they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them


Well the people that i delegate some of the tasks to will be people i have known for a while and are to be trusted, new people will have to show loyalty, which i am very big on.

Explain the pos tower thing a bit more, i might have someone that can do that. Also what will it take to get the standing?


if you intend to use a high sec pos for research , you need atleast a corpstanding of 5.0 with the faction that owns the space where you are setting up your pos only for high sec
Since the corporate standing is calculated from the average faction standing of all your corpmembers that have been member of your corp for more than 7 days , it becomes almost impossible for a corporation to set up a pos when their corp start growing
faction standing is gained thru either storyline missions , cosmos agents , database agents epic mission arcs etc

there is a good article about it in the eve wiki , sadly i can't acces this right now , maybe somebody else will be so good

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Preacher Garra
Enemies of the Republic
#20 - 2012-07-09 11:33:22 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
Preacher Garra wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
like many of the posters pointed out
you need a well defined goal and purpose for your corporation, and put that in your recruiting poster
Tell people what your goals are and what you can offer them , make sure you don't promise them things you can not fulfill
and work for that goal , people tend to be more loyal if there is a common goal

Male sure you delegate some of the workload to directors , make sure those are people you can really trust, if thezre is something possible like that in EVE

be warned it isn't easy and i seen my share of CEO s and directors leave the game because of a burn out
organize and be there for your members when they have questions or have a problem

But most of all have a set of goals your members can work toward as a team

small tip if you are planning a industrial corp with research , put up some pos towers in high sec now ( if you got the standing ) before you start recruiting
they don't have to be online till needed and nobody of your members needs to know till they ready to use them


Well the people that i delegate some of the tasks to will be people i have known for a while and are to be trusted, new people will have to show loyalty, which i am very big on.

Explain the pos tower thing a bit more, i might have someone that can do that. Also what will it take to get the standing?


if you intend to use a high sec pos for research , you need atleast a corpstanding of 5.0 with the faction that owns the space where you are setting up your pos only for high sec
Since the corporate standing is calculated from the average faction standing of all your corpmembers that have been member of your corp for more than 7 days , it becomes almost impossible for a corporation to set up a pos when their corp start growing
faction standing is gained thru either storyline missions , cosmos agents , database agents epic mission arcs etc

there is a good article about it in the eve wiki , sadly i can't acces this right now , maybe somebody else will be so good


Thanks but as we have only 3 members right now it will be fine. I will read the wiki cause i need to know what skills one of us needs

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