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Cough Suppressant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-08 01:55:58 UTC
curious as to who or how many corps will allow a former member of goons into their corp/alliance once its all said and done.

All things that have a beginning must have an end.
Gaden Kytarn
Corp 1 Allstars
#2 - 2012-07-08 01:57:27 UTC
Well of course, once they pay theor 500mil security deposit...
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-07-08 01:58:04 UTC
I don't see why any would.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Lilliana Stelles
#4 - 2012-07-08 02:03:34 UTC
Goons have as many allies and neutrals as they do enemies... it's not like they wouldn't be accepted elsewhere.

The way I see it, if they ever disband, then the people of the current goonswarm will create new corps, which any of their members would be welcomed to join.

The fact is, they have thousands of members. Those people accept each other. If they break up, that probably won't change, even if they're flying under different flags.

Not a forum alt. 
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#5 - 2012-07-08 02:10:56 UTC
Cough Suppressant wrote:
curious as to who or how many corps will allow a former member of goons into their corp/alliance once its all said and done.

All things that have a beginning must have an end.


I don't think you really understand how gigantic alliances like Goonswarm work...they don't really ever die. They just change their name, sometimes break into multiple smaller entities, but the people involved stay together. They won't be applying to join your corps, you might end up applying to one of theirs.

Look at how many incarnations of BoB there were/are/might be.
Cough Suppressant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-07-08 02:13:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Cough Suppressant
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Goons have as many allies and neutrals as they do enemies... it's not like they wouldn't be accepted elsewhere.

The way I see it, if they ever disband, then the people of the current goonswarm will create new corps, which any of their members would be welcomed to join.

The fact is, they have thousands of members. Those people accept each other. If they break up, that probably won't change, even if they're flying under different flags.


this is all speculation, but im guessing

Goons have many alts, once the powers that be discover the hidden programs allowing bots to fund the great 'we get free ships to kill you with' war, and the fact they got all the wanna be pvp elitists killing 'i dont know how to tank my hulk' miners, its enivitable.

but back to my question, would you knowingly let one into your corp
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#7 - 2012-07-08 02:19:53 UTC
Anyone who has actually flown alongside goons has a pretty healthy respect for them.
Cough Suppressant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-07-08 02:22:07 UTC
Jiska Ensa wrote:
Cough Suppressant wrote:
curious as to who or how many corps will allow a former member of goons into their corp/alliance once its all said and done.

All things that have a beginning must have an end.


I don't think you really understand how gigantic alliances like Goonswarm work...they don't really ever die. They just change their name, sometimes break into multiple smaller entities, but the people involved stay together. They won't be applying to join your corps, you might end up applying to one of theirs.

Look at how many incarnations of BoB there were/are/might be.


personally i dont see them as a gigantic alliance,
i see them as pushing minerals prices up and miners out so they can have more bots in the field alliance.

You gotta wonder, half of them maintain forums posts. Who's actually working the fields?

You wanna know why eve spikes at 40k and then drops to 20k 3 hours later, its because mains drop the bot alts to fight the 'we get our ships for free' war..
Cough Suppressant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-08 02:23:34 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Anyone who has actually flown alongside goons has a pretty healthy respect for them.


who wouldnt, omg .. give me free ships to fight sure thing

its ok if u loose a ship or two, we got it covered, NO KIDDING
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#10 - 2012-07-08 02:24:36 UTC
Bots are not the source of Goonswarm's income. If you want to find bots, look no further than highsec and the drone regions.
Lilliana Stelles
#11 - 2012-07-08 02:27:17 UTC
^If anything, goonswarm has helped to oppose botting by killing bulk highsec miners.

Not a forum alt. 
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#12 - 2012-07-08 02:29:12 UTC
Cough Suppressant wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Anyone who has actually flown alongside goons has a pretty healthy respect for them.


who wouldnt, omg .. give me free ships to fight sure thing

its ok if u loose a ship or two, we got it covered, NO KIDDING

Maybe if you were any good someone would give you ships in return for you fighting for them.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Cough Suppressant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-07-08 02:36:38 UTC
when yer neighbor asks have you even been scammed by a telemarketer and all you can think of is goonswarm..

ya, sure.. are you sure you weren't scammed into killin all those reject miners for a reason?

I think you might have been
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#14 - 2012-07-08 02:52:25 UTC
I will accept any little bees that want to make the smart choice to join my corp.

There are some small fees involved but that's nothing compared to the free Velators and trit I freely hand out to all corp members that lose their ships fighting the good fight.

Mr Epeen Cool
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2012-07-08 02:53:45 UTC
Cleaned up the thread a little. Continue on.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

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Lilliana Stelles
#16 - 2012-07-08 02:55:43 UTC
Cough Suppressant wrote:
when yer neighbor asks have you even been scammed by a telemarketer and all you can think of is goonswarm..

ya, sure.. are you sure you weren't scammed into killin all those reject miners for a reason?

I think you might have been


On the actual goon wiki, they clearly state that they don't recruit, and that their in-game recruiters are a scam. I may or may not agree with their scamming, but they do clearly warn against it. https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101

If some of their members choose to recruit-scam, then that reflects upon them as an individual. It doesn't really change how I'd receive any other person of the alliance.

Not a forum alt. 
Cough Suppressant
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-07-08 03:07:28 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Cough Suppressant wrote:
when yer neighbor asks have you even been scammed by a telemarketer and all you can think of is goonswarm..

ya, sure.. are you sure you weren't scammed into killin all those reject miners for a reason?

I think you might have been


On the actual goon wiki, they clearly state that they don't recruit, and that their in-game recruiters are a scam. I may or may not agree with their scamming, but they do clearly warn against it. https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe_101

If some of their members choose to recruit-scam, then that reflects upon them as an individual. It doesn't really change how I'd receive any other person of the alliance.



my smokes have this same warning on the package, smoking me will kill you..

i won't let smokes in my corp, once i quit that is..

not everyone reads the fine print.

you will eventually be scammed in eve, side effects may be hurried by prolonged exposure to goons

if you let them in, good for you.. i used to have faith in people here too
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-07-08 03:35:29 UTC
Jiska Ensa wrote:
Cough Suppressant wrote:
curious as to who or how many corps will allow a former member of goons into their corp/alliance once its all said and done.

All things that have a beginning must have an end.


I don't think you really understand how gigantic alliances like Goonswarm work...they don't really ever die. They just change their name, sometimes break into multiple smaller entities, but the people involved stay together. They won't be applying to join your corps, you might end up applying to one of theirs.

Look at how many incarnations of BoB there were/are/might be.

Goonswarm (more specifically Goonwaffe) has had several incarnations. It was Goonswarm, then it was SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO, and now it's Goonswarm Federation.
Whenever this current iteration dies there will be another to take its place.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Apostate Lucius
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-08 04:14:56 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Bots are not the source of Goonswarm's income. If you want to find bots, look no further than highsec and the drone regions.


Lilliana Stelles wrote:
^If anything, goonswarm has helped to oppose botting by killing bulk highsec miners.


Children...so naive in the matters of the real world and how power and money corrupts. Although perhaps, it's less naivety and more of a subtle wink and nod after saying such things?

Let Caesar never forget, though he may rule with the authority of the gods, he is allowed to rule by the whim of the people.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-07-08 04:39:10 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Apostate Lucius wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Bots are not the source of Goonswarm's income. If you want to find bots, look no further than highsec and the drone regions.


Lilliana Stelles wrote:
^If anything, goonswarm has helped to oppose botting by killing bulk highsec miners.


Children...so naive in the matters of the real world and how power and money corrupts. Although perhaps, it's less naivety and more of a subtle wink and nod after saying such things?

Goonswarm have no need to bot when tech moons make all their money for them with with little effort other than finding the moon, setting up the POS, defending it when necessary and moving tech elsewhere to sell.

The idea of a Goon botting is laughable, because there's literally no reason for them to do it.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
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