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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#461 - 2012-07-06 10:51:15 UTC
Jett0 wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Raneru wrote:
I can't wait to see alien/prometheus style exploration of unknown structures in eve! Big smile

Have you guys considered randomizing/procedurally generating the maps for certain environments? That would help keep the exploration fresh instead of it being like static mission layouts.


We have indeed, our ideas include making some of these structures big enough that it wouldn't really be possible to make them by hand. It's something we still need to investigate in detail though.


You could always ask the Dust team. Big smile

Seriously, though, this is awesome. I'm imagining some "roguelike" level scenarios here.

On that note, have you guys played around with the idea of multi-story areas? Stairs, elevators, etc.?


OMG I FIGURED IT OUT. they are making an eve themed sci-fi rouge like.

xD <3

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#462 - 2012-07-06 11:08:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciar Meara
Mechael wrote:
TEABO BAGGINS wrote:
I would have like to see a progression towards letting us walk inside our spaceships


Except the part where we pilot the ships from our pods, without a crew.

Oh right, the lore changed slowly over the course of years. It was better the other way.


You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The pod could make it so you have need of very few to no crew on some ships. Larger ones always needed crew. The piloting and command of the ship was simplified by the pod. The rest wasn't.

On another note, this sounds like a seriously interesting dev blog and I look forward to reading it! Damn people and their vacations!

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Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#463 - 2012-07-06 11:32:59 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
OMG I FIGURED IT OUT. they are making an eve themed sci-fi rouge like.

xD <3


Shocked

...Will the Blue Potions still kill me like they always do...?

Occasionally plays sober
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#464 - 2012-07-06 13:06:06 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
Jett0 wrote:
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Raneru wrote:
I can't wait to see alien/prometheus style exploration of unknown structures in eve! Big smile

Have you guys considered randomizing/procedurally generating the maps for certain environments? That would help keep the exploration fresh instead of it being like static mission layouts.


We have indeed, our ideas include making some of these structures big enough that it wouldn't really be possible to make them by hand. It's something we still need to investigate in detail though.


You could always ask the Dust team. Big smile

Seriously, though, this is awesome. I'm imagining some "roguelike" level scenarios here.

On that note, have you guys played around with the idea of multi-story areas? Stairs, elevators, etc.?


OMG I FIGURED IT OUT. they are making an eve themed sci-fi rouge like.

xD <3


Shocked

WANT SO MUCH!



On a related note, have you seen the size of those stations? They contain multiple cubic kilometers of structure...

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#465 - 2012-07-06 13:40:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Rees Noturana wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
btw, Torfi is so excited about Incarna/WiS that he was wearing a full length Incarna leather coat at the office today (don't tell him, but it kind of looked like a dress on himLol)


Pics or it didn't happen.

Is this leather coat something that is going to hit to market?



we are stil waiting for pics with Karkur in a latex suit on it


They are coming SuperSeriouslySoon TM (S.S.S TM being a time unit defined as the time it would take any standard hell to freeze and then thaw again).

Anwyay, I wonder how long would it take until someone cosplays in Fanfest... in my very limited knowledge, there wouldn't be nothing impossible to replicate in EVE's dressing, aside of the way the clothes wrap around the bottom of larger breasts.

(Well, then there are those "minima" heels too, which i can't completely figure how would work mechanically so the strap wouldn't break/open/hurt the wearer... I guess it's supposed that the V lock on the strap will open to a wider angle so the wearer slips the foot thrugh the strap, then it will close back to the narrower angle to lock the strap and fit it to the ankle... but then you're left with those solid V locks banging on the feet when walking...)

(Yes, speculating over weird irrelevant questions is one of my favorite passtimes)

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Rrama Ratamnim
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#466 - 2012-07-06 14:15:03 UTC
Ok I love the idea of explorable procedurally generated stations/outposts so that there can be a wide variety of stations to be discovered, etc....

HOWEVER>....

Why don't you guys start small, before you go to that extent enable inviting people to CQ its a novelty, don't advertise it as a big feature but atleast the ability to see more than 1 person in a CQ would be interesting... Allow us to buy one of those nifty strategy game tables for our CQ, and place it wherever we want, and when people are invited over they can play it...

Something small and trivial but ground breaking... And on top of that you can have a "More people can't be invited as it would be a fire hazard" to limit # of people in your CQ...

I mean i love the exploration ideas, but honestly the biggest thing that i was looking forward to with the promise of WIS, was the station experience of going to a club thats owned by a corp mate, and playing some games with some buddies and making bets... Basically the EOH guys could actually really have an EOH area in a station somewhere in eve with a bunch of casino's and poker and other stuff...

Slot machines that the owners can set rates on etc.. things like that

This was just something that astonished me, seeing atleast some tangible forward momentum in the system is what is missing, yes protyping is wicked, but we need to see some tangible results commercially for WIS to not be a joke...

Procedurally generated exploration stations with the ability to fight and kill is where you need to get, but what about starting at the same stations where there is no fighting allowed yet, (that can come later) but that we can walk around, for the love of god...


WANT EVERYONE TO BE ESTATIC?

Add a f*cking window! I'm not joking here, or make the view screen able to switch to an outside view of the station, why should i have to undock and dock station game style to see if theres people outside the station?1?!??!? CCP has said you can render multiple 3d scenes, so why can't the tv have a station with the 3d scene is the status outside the station...

It's not much advantage really as station game redock is 100% safe... and hell if you want it to be less advantage than even that, show the area on screen but don't highlight blues/reds etc...but personally i wish it could be like that new tactical overlay that was shown at FanFest, but with the station at the center.
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#467 - 2012-07-06 14:18:54 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP karkur
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Rees Noturana wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
btw, Torfi is so excited about Incarna/WiS that he was wearing a full length Incarna leather coat at the office today (don't tell him, but it kind of looked like a dress on himLol)


Pics or it didn't happen.

Is this leather coat something that is going to hit to market?

we are stil waiting for pics with Karkur in a latex suit on it


They are coming SuperSeriouslySoon TM (S.S.S TM being a time unit defined as the time it would take any standard hell to freeze and then thaw again).

Anwyay, I wonder how long would it take until someone cosplays in Fanfest... in my very limited knowledge, there wouldn't be nothing impossible to replicate in EVE's dressing, aside of the way the clothes wrap around the bottom of larger breasts.

There was at least one girl at Fanfest this year who was wearing Women's 'Sterling' Dress Blouse and last year some of the Veto people were in costume (or maybe they always dress like that, what do I know). Then there is one guy that was always in costume and carrying duct tape (I don't remember seeing him this year at Fanfest).

The leather coat is a few years old and as far as I know there are no plans for it.
There are a few pretty nice Incarna coats and jackets here at the office, but the catsuit only exists inside our computers Lol

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
CCP RedDawn
C C P
C C P Alliance
#468 - 2012-07-06 14:51:03 UTC
CCP karkur wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Rees Noturana wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
btw, Torfi is so excited about Incarna/WiS that he was wearing a full length Incarna leather coat at the office today (don't tell him, but it kind of looked like a dress on himLol)


Pics or it didn't happen.

Is this leather coat something that is going to hit to market?

we are stil waiting for pics with Karkur in a latex suit on it


They are coming SuperSeriouslySoon TM (S.S.S TM being a time unit defined as the time it would take any standard hell to freeze and then thaw again).

Anwyay, I wonder how long would it take until someone cosplays in Fanfest... in my very limited knowledge, there wouldn't be nothing impossible to replicate in EVE's dressing, aside of the way the clothes wrap around the bottom of larger breasts.

There was at least one girl at Fanfest this year who was wearing Women's 'Sterling' Dress Blouse and last year some of the Veto people were in costume (or maybe they always dress like that, what do I know). Then there is one guy that was always in costume and carrying duct tape (I don't remember seeing him this year at Fanfest).

The leather coat is a few years old and as far as I know there are no plans for it.
There are a few pretty nice Incarna coats and jackets here at the office, but the catsuit only exists inside our computers Lol


If the catsuit gets made irl, I want a small male version to wear on deployment days.

Team Genesis
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#469 - 2012-07-06 14:52:51 UTC
CCP RedDawn wrote:
If the catsuit gets made irl, I want a small male version to wear on deployment days.


Because of this thread, I now know it's possible to BSoD a human mind.

Occasionally plays sober
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#470 - 2012-07-06 14:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
CCP RedDawn wrote:
CCP Karkur wrote:


The leather coat is a few years old and as far as I know there are no plans for it.
There are a few pretty nice Incarna coats and jackets here at the office, but the catsuit only exists inside our computers Lol


If the catsuit gets made irl, I want a small male version to wear on deployment days.


A "small male version"?

Is this because you are small or because you like wearing super tight cat suits?? Shocked

Where I am.
CCP RedDawn
C C P
C C P Alliance
#471 - 2012-07-06 14:57:47 UTC
Bloodpetal wrote:


Is this because you are small or because you like wearing super tight cat suits?? Shocked


Both.

Team Genesis
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#472 - 2012-07-06 15:33:04 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Everet Ruhen wrote:
(Zzzzzip, puts on flame suit) I think we could borrow something from WOW, Mists of Pandaria..


(disarms the airlock doors and engages the manual override while grabbing tight onto a railing)

But yes, black markets are cool and have actually been discussed as one of the activities done inside avatar social spaces, making it necessary for capsuleers to meet face to face, off the grid so to speak.



We were promised with a response regarding the reparation of the devaluation of our Ishukone Special Edition Shirt & Women Executor (Red/Gold) a week ago.

Are you telling us now that we have to wait for another week? It's already been a week and in the meantime, hundreds of additional needless hatemongering threads and posts have been generated at each other regarding this issue. Are you guys just sitting behind the desk and laughing at those who were disadvantaged by this issue?
TEABO BAGGINS
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#473 - 2012-07-06 15:41:17 UTC
Mechael wrote:
TEABO BAGGINS wrote:
I would have like to see a progression towards letting us walk inside our spaceships


Except the part where we pilot the ships from our pods, without a crew.

Oh right, the lore changed slowly over the course of years. It was better the other way.


lol WiP- wanking in pod..

Crew: why are the windows so foggy in that pod? captain? are u ok in there?
Mors Magne
Terra Incognita
#474 - 2012-07-06 16:14:10 UTC
CCP Bayesian wrote:
Raneru wrote:
I can't wait to see alien/prometheus style exploration of unknown structures in eve! Big smile

Have you guys considered randomizing/procedurally generating the maps for certain environments? That would help keep the exploration fresh instead of it being like static mission layouts.


We have indeed, our ideas include making some of these structures big enough that it wouldn't really be possible to make them by hand. It's something we still need to investigate in detail though.


This sounds totally amazing. Better than just about everything else.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#475 - 2012-07-06 16:14:28 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Everet Ruhen wrote:
(Zzzzzip, puts on flame suit) I think we could borrow something from WOW, Mists of Pandaria..


(disarms the airlock doors and engages the manual override while grabbing tight onto a railing)

But yes, black markets are cool and have actually been discussed as one of the activities done inside avatar social spaces, making it necessary for capsuleers to meet face to face, off the grid so to speak.



We were promised with a response regarding the reparation of the devaluation of our Ishukone Special Edition Shirt & Women Executor (Red/Gold) a week ago.

Are you telling us now that we have to wait for another week? It's already been a week and in the meantime, hundreds of additional needless hatemongering threads and posts have been generated at each other regarding this issue. Are you guys just sitting behind the desk and laughing at those who were disadvantaged by this issue?


Oh jesus, get over it, you aren't getting any special rewards for a gift/reward for a purchase agreement that was never meant to be an investment. Buyer beware, or have you never made an actual investment before
Price Check Aisle3
#476 - 2012-07-06 16:19:53 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
We were promised with a response regarding the reparation of the devaluation of our Ishukone Special Edition Shirt & Women Executor (Red/Gold) a week ago.

Are you telling us now that we have to wait for another week? It's already been a week and in the meantime, hundreds of additional needless hatemongering threads and posts have been generated at each other regarding this issue. Are you guys just sitting behind the desk and laughing at those who were disadvantaged by this issue?

Go back to your own terrible thread and quit munging this one up.
  • Karl Hobb IATS
CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#477 - 2012-07-06 16:24:09 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Everet Ruhen wrote:
(Zzzzzip, puts on flame suit) I think we could borrow something from WOW, Mists of Pandaria..


(disarms the airlock doors and engages the manual override while grabbing tight onto a railing)

But yes, black markets are cool and have actually been discussed as one of the activities done inside avatar social spaces, making it necessary for capsuleers to meet face to face, off the grid so to speak.



We were promised with a response regarding the reparation of the devaluation of our Ishukone Special Edition Shirt & Women Executor (Red/Gold) a week ago.

Are you telling us now that we have to wait for another week? It's already been a week and in the meantime, hundreds of additional needless hatemongering threads and posts have been generated at each other regarding this issue. Are you guys just sitting behind the desk and laughing at those who were disadvantaged by this issue?

Yes we are... it's the funniest thing EVER!Lol
Nah it's really not.... this thing is still being worked on. I don't know when we have a response for you (it's just not my job so I'm not involved in that), but please be patientSmile

CCP karkur | Programmer | Team Five 0 | @CCP_karkur
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#478 - 2012-07-06 16:38:07 UTC

Kick and stomp and kick and stomp.

Only child?

Where I am.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#479 - 2012-07-06 16:56:01 UTC
Honestly, the potential of "WiS" is so great that I still think CCP would be well advised to split it off into a whole new game project rather than try and cramp it into the narrow confines of a "new feature" of an existing game predicated on an entirely different engine.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#480 - 2012-07-06 17:20:50 UTC
Jett0 wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
Do you have positions open at CCP by any chance? I'm just starting interning, but maybe in a few years I'd love to help something like that. Revolutionary if you did it right.


For you


sadly my skills in programing while enough to make a simple rpg, sadly I need to wait for one of those rare starting tech art positions.

but it's all Senior art this Senior artist that ;_;

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