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Client keeps activating AntiAliasing ? - Patched. :D

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-07-02 12:43:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
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Fixed an issue where the client could override user AA settings resulting in lower performance on some hardware configurations.


Thanks a ton !! :D




ATI card here.

Can anybody else confirm this issue ?

I've noticed my client keeps activating AntiAliasing for no reason.

It's "Disabled" in the client and in the drivers settings,
but it doesn't even matter if the driver is set to "Application" or "Override".

Now, if i set the client to "Low", i actually get "Medium" ...
while on "Disabled" it's "Low".

I managed to get it deactivated once, by changing the driver settings to "override",
but when i ALT+TABbed out of the (fullscreen running) client and back into it,
AA was turned on again.


I have set interval to "two" to make it use less ressources.
Can't confirm or deny any connection to this.


This is getting pretty annoying, as i'm playing on a notebook
and it's getting really hot in connection to room temperature.
We have 30+ degree celsius around here right now...


Just asking if anybody else experiences this,
before i start seeking other possible causes for this.


Thank you.


Update:
I've managed to turn AA off by resetting the driver settings and restarting the client.
It was off for a while, but now i've opened the Map ... and it's back on again !
Yes ... opened the map, which activated AA. WTF ?





(edit: i know, i could/should have posted this in the issues forum, but i actually wanted a response...)
Zrye
Dominion Guild
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#2 - 2012-07-02 13:03:09 UTC
I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me when i was trying to disable AA the other day, but i guess i have the same problem aswell, also on an ATi card
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-02 13:19:58 UTC
Also having this problem with an amd 6870
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-07-02 13:24:10 UTC
If you can't use the overdrive OC included program you should use external graphic card programs:

GPU-Z


Riva Tuner

EVGA Precision (very strong tool)

brb

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-07-02 13:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
If you can't use the overdrive OC included program you should use external graphic card programs:

GPU-Z


Riva Tuner

EVGA Precision (very strong tool)



That really doesn't look like you're actually trying to help.

No program came included to my notebook, that would allow me to do this.
I can't even upgrade the frelling gfx drivers, because then i lose the Intel HD Graphics switching ...



Edit: RivaTuner, EVGA Precision ... GeForce. Mhm. How about not being so hypocritically helpful ? Thx.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-07-02 13:27:34 UTC
That's very unfair, because my client keeps it deactivated no matter what setting I choose… Lol
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-02 13:28:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:
That's very unfair, because my client keeps it deactivated no matter what setting I choose… Lol


Hahahahhaa xD
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-07-02 14:04:30 UTC
So go meta game yourself a better card, ya know... since you're so meta. A great eve player such as yourself should be playing it in style. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-07-02 14:09:06 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Edit: RivaTuner, EVGA Precision ... GeForce. Mhm. How about not being so hypocritically helpful ? Thx.



Well actually works very fine with ATi cards but you didn't actually understood yet ATi are crap for whatever concerns drivers or programs to make their crap run decently.

Riva tuner, again, if you don't even care to know who are Guru3D don't ask for help if you don't want any. Just buy decent hardware, problem solved.

brb

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-07-02 14:31:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
I'll ignore you trolls, because it's no use.


Anyway, an update.


I've managed to switch off AntiAliasing ... and then opened the Map.

Yes, the Map.


Now AA is turned back on again. -.-
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#11 - 2012-07-02 16:02:41 UTC
Lucky you! I can't activate AA within CQ no matter what. Already promised myself to buy NVIDIA card next time - got troubles with AA in other games as well (WoT, Skyrim).
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-07-02 16:37:44 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Lucky you! I can't activate AA within CQ no matter what. Already promised myself to buy NVIDIA card next time - got troubles with AA in other games as well (WoT, Skyrim).


Yeah i'd consider myself lucky, if my notebook wouldn't burn so much. :D

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#13 - 2012-07-02 18:34:31 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
I'll ignore you trolls, because it's no use.
-

No one is trolling you. Both Riva and EVGA Precission can work with ATI cards. You won't get all the features, but you may be able to limit the AA manually.


Though my question is, why would it keep turning on if you set it to off in the game settings?
Aineko Macx
#14 - 2012-07-02 18:38:46 UTC
I confirm this issue with a HD6950 and a HD3850 as well.

It is due to the latest Catalyst drivers 12.6 and 12.7 beta, which are not meant for cards below the 7000 series. If you go back to the previous driver version (12.4) the problem should be gone.

If for whatever reason you need the newer driver even with a card below 7000, you can minimize the impact of AA by forcing a lower quality (2x) in the driver.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-07-02 19:19:53 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
I'll ignore you trolls, because it's no use.
-

No one is trolling you. Both Riva and EVGA Precission can work with ATI cards. You won't get all the features, but you may be able to limit the AA manually.


Though my question is, why would it keep turning on if you set it to off in the game settings?
Referring mostly to the tone that both of them had ... but thanks for actually mentioning this.
If i knew why it did that ... then i'd probably had solved the problem already. :D

Aineko Macx wrote:
I confirm this issue with a HD6950 and a HD3850 as well.

It is due to the latest Catalyst drivers 12.6 and 12.7 beta, which are not meant for cards below the 7000 series. If you go back to the previous driver version (12.4) the problem should be gone.

If for whatever reason you need the newer driver even with a card below 7000, you can minimize the impact of AA by forcing a lower quality (2x) in the driver.


I can't check the driver now, because i've switched to the integrated intel thingy ... but i'll check later on.
I never actually upgraded ... windows must have done this itself.

I can't even use the usual catalysts, because then i lose the capability of switching between ATI and intel.
I've tried different drivers a longer while ago and then the intel didn't get recognized anymore.

You know ... notebooks drivers ... :(
Aineko Macx
#16 - 2012-07-03 13:57:37 UTC
Btw, I just saw the issue on a HD7850 + Catalyst 12.6. I might be wrong with my previous post so please disregard.
Othran
Route One
#17 - 2012-07-03 14:06:31 UTC
I recollect an issue with the map and Flash, although not this version of Flash.

Have you turned off h/w acceleration in Flash for all web browsers (FF, IE etc) and also windows media player/centre?

Give it a try in the absence of any other suggestions.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-07-03 14:14:11 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
I'll ignore you trolls, because it's no use.
-

No one is trolling you. Both Riva and EVGA Precission can work with ATI cards. You won't get all the features, but you may be able to limit the AA manually.


Though my question is, why would it keep turning on if you set it to off in the game settings?



ATi cards are very strong hardware, but this awesome accomplishment is totally annihilated by their inability to offer decent drivers or interface. They're buggy 99% the time next one comes up, witch will also be buggy etc.

Add the fact Notepads/books/regular laptops have Assembler integrated software (and also why you don't get Win DVD installer etc), the only way to do whatever, and I really mean whatever you want with those is to use pro programs for overclocking and alike.
Guru 3D, genius dudes and software absolutely fantatisc, EVGA probably the most powerfull tool for nVidia based chipsets but most features you need to tweak/improve ATi cards work very well on those.

OP is just a troll who doesn't even care to take a look at, instead he chooses to insult people giving him the tools to do exactly what he wants.

Go figure.

brb

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-07-03 14:23:01 UTC
Aineko Macx wrote:
I confirm this issue with a HD6950 and a HD3850 as well.

It is due to the latest Catalyst drivers 12.6 and 12.7 beta, which are not meant for cards below the 7000 series. If you go back to the previous driver version (12.4) the problem should be gone.

If for whatever reason you need the newer driver even with a card below 7000, you can minimize the impact of AA by forcing a lower quality (2x) in the driver.



On 4870x2 Sapphire models the only way to get back some functionality but never sure Catalys would properly pop on screen, was to completely delete manually all ATi file from your computer, reboot and then reinstall previous catalyst and drivers.
Of course this was clearly Titan work and completely impossible if your MB has not video chipset integrated and you don't know what you're doing.

Thing is, basically you should never install new ATi drivers and Catalyst if your actual Catalyst works fine, just uninstall actual driver, reboot, install new driver, reboot and chances it works are much higher.

My 4870x2 took a drive by the bureau window (for true) because of all this mess. Pick the cheapest nVidia card on market and you'll never get 1/10th the problems you get with ATi, hell even a 10 YO card nVidia you plug it and works properly with almost no effort.

brb

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-07-03 14:56:08 UTC
Othran wrote:
I recollect an issue with the map and Flash, although not this version of Flash.

Have you turned off h/w acceleration in Flash for all web browsers (FF, IE etc) and also windows media player/centre?

Give it a try in the absence of any other suggestions.


That's an interesting thought. I often get driver hangups when watching videos via flash or a standalone player.
Don't think it'll help much, but i'll give it a thought. Maybe, at least, it'll stop the hickups.
(i didn't even know turning it off was possible...)

Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
it's all about me


Anyway ...

I didn't find anything to change the situation.

Driver version is 10.06. That's 2010. That's what Windows 7 automagically installed and that's the most up2date driver
i can use. Changing that leads only leads to me losing functionality.

I don't think it's really a driver issue anymore. It more looks like a false set flag in the client. AA is turned off now,
when i start the client ... but when i open the Map (which uses antialiased lines) i again have AA forced on me.
Sometimes when i alt+tab ... AA turns on too. I seriously doubt it's the drivers fault, because i never had these
issues with anything else.


Oh well.
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