Warfare & Tactics

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEKpbslHYFM

Thats how Amarrians roll, but seriously, FCs get mad when people do ******** stuff/dont do what there told/bring purger rigged PVE drakes to hellcat fleets.

Happy FCs are happy because nobody is being ********.

FCs can be friendly and usually they are the more friendly the smaller the fleet is. FCing can be really an exhausting and though job, sometimes worser than a bad real life job. Therefore FCs usually burn out if the fleets geting too large (large fleet = many people doing dumb things) or the operation is going for a too long time.

Naturally it depends at the end on the FC and how serious he takes his "job of FCing".

"I'm tackled I'm tackled I'm going under attack I'm going into armour hEEEEEELP!"

"Who was just speaking and where are you?"

"GET HERE NAO! PLEASE HELP, GET THEM OFF ME!"

"Repeat location and composition of hostile fleet?"

"NEED REPS NEED REPS NOW!"

"FFS we can't help if we don't know anything about your situation!"

(third voice)

"I think he's in a sanctum in 4B-NQN"

FC's get grumpy and a bit hostile because:

They must train level 5 Cat Herding

They must always be aware that those fleet members who have been in the area and in EVE for 2 months are better at tactics and life in general than the rest of the fleet and the FC so they should be listened to and everyone should do what they say.

If fleet members are ignoring orders, tying up comms, jumping without commands, and generally acting like lemmings then its your fault entirely.

Every single ship matters so in the middle of a 600 man fight with capitols you should be aware that the tech 1 fitted BS that is not with the fleet and sitting on the gate tackled is the singularly most important ship in the universe and should be treated as such.

If you take a fleet out and do not kill all of EVE with your mighty frigates then you failed as an FC and should learn to play.

When you are FC for a 20 man destroyer gang and you run from a 15 man RR BS gang with triage carrier support then you are scared to engage and should be publicly ridiculed.

Kill mails are more important than objectives so you should always strive for the maximum amount of KM's even if you lose the entire fleet and three POS's because you at least got kills.

In all seriousness some FC's are just naturally mean and hurt peoples feelings, it is usually not intentional however if you are leading fleets every single night and constantly dealing with annoyances, constant criticism, and stupid people then it will push you off the deep end.

Being an FC is like beating your head against a brick wall sometimes so understand that most long term FC's get sick of dealing with the stupidity and get a little grumpy. Unless they are being hostile and counterproductive then it is just a normal phase for the FC. If they are constantly treating people like crap and being abusive then they will end up losing creditability and the ability to FC. People join you because they like to fly with you and feel like they get something out of the experience however do not get upset if you do something stupid and get people killed and the FC calls you out for it.

^^ this ^^

Honestly this is why i gave up on FCing...

to all you super wind up and verging on emo breakdowns FCs, back here... on the back of the bus, it's all rainbows and ponies... just saying..

and to the millions of back seat FCs who know it all and risk nothing... put up or for the love of baby cheesus... shut the **** up

Had a couple great FCs in Minmatar FW... I'd fly with them again any day.

I've also had more than a few complete idiots, and a few guys who really needed to step away from the computer and get a life.

this is sooo true

Small gangs largely get away with a few "talkers" in fact, it can be really helpful.. so comms much less of an issue, but you scale that beyond 15/20 with split fleets, bat phones and back up to coordinate and it gets real, many times I have had to take my headset off for 15 seconds just to think. FW fleets are the worst for this.

It's sad to say, i've killed more than one guy from fleet and comms for not shutting the fudge up or feelings his opinion is needed.

Jumping gates is maybe the single most annoying thing, along with firing on cynos mid fight without orders, many traps have failed to be sprung or bat phones failed to arrive due to trigger happy morons.

At the end of the day, it comes down to this, i think... if you agree to fly under an FC then you should follow orders, shut up unless you're asked to speak and if you think your FC is wrong, go FC yourself..

Back on thread and not moaning about ppl who aren't FCs.. the answer is most likely yes, when you're chew the fat with your corpies your FCs are friendly guys, your buddies.. but when they FC... they are not your mates, they're your commander.

We used to have a term we called 'the right to speak'
Because when some guy's give intel, it is important, relevent, current. And then they are silent until something else important comes up. I always liked to hear these ppl's voice.

If a newb was in fleet and started babbling on about this or that. He always wondered, "why can that guy talk and I can't?"
We would explain the 'rights' to him and try to let him enjoy the fleet without being a d*ck to him.

I think 75% of the people in EVE are adults, and want to be treated in an adult fashion.
I also think they know the difference between 'firm command' and just plain ass holes.

I have to admit, I like small fleets better.
I also have to admit, FC is a JOB! You try your best and still there will be people that b*tch

Things I hate:
Guy's that warp off and expect me to come save them.
Guy's that have no comms at all.
People that post Youtubes and **** in fleet.
Split DPS
People that engage too slow.
'Runners" Pilots that want to run at the first instinct.
People that want to commandere your fleet.
Fleets where NOBODY can take over if FC dies.

I look at killmails after fights. I can tell who was participating and who was derping.