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[PROPOSAL] Bring back the vagabond frill

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Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#21 - 2012-06-28 15:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Seismic Stan
Disgruntled capsuleers have previously had some success making their point through in-game actions, most notably during last Summer's uprising which resulted in the destruction of the Jita Memorial monument.

Shooting a static structure is so last year, but a similar event would have the advantage of showing numbers, being something active and positive and it would also be a talking point.

So how about a protest march?

Thukk You, Frill Me! - The March Against the Vagabond Revisionists

The corporation responsible for the production of the Vagabond is Thukker Mix and their HQ is listed as the Thukker Mix Factory in the null-sec system of M-MD3B.

How about we organise a Stabber/Vagabond gathering one weekend, when the entire fleet will muster at the Jita Monument, but will then take a leisurely protest tour of the major trade hubs, before heading out through low and null to "suicide gank" the Thukker Mix HQ.

This will have the following benefits:

  • It will be an entertaining event.
  • Numbers providing, it will be high profile.
  • Screenshots could highlight the lack of visual difference between the models.
  • The high-sec portion of the march will be very visible to other players.
  • The low/null section will result in lots of explosions one way or another.

Any takers for a bit of friendly civil disobedience?

Edit: Okay, how's Sunday July 15th sound? I'll start a new thread, but in the meantime, check out the plans here.
Kirith Darkblade
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#22 - 2012-06-28 16:05:18 UTC
Bring back the frill!
Fergus Meikleour
#23 - 2012-06-28 16:07:23 UTC
Bring back the frill

In Fidem
#24 - 2012-06-28 16:10:07 UTC
tbh I didn't even notice something missing, but now I'm all like bring it back!

The State will not fall. Join us. Fight. Conquer.

edit: disregard that, the state has fallen.

Alaura Aquila
Sarz'na Khumatari
#25 - 2012-06-28 16:14:00 UTC
Sounds fun, I hate the new change to the Vagabond :(
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-28 16:50:41 UTC
1) Bring the frill back!

2) great idea Stan, I'm game

3) No really, bring the frill back
Sparkle Motion.
#27 - 2012-06-28 16:55:23 UTC
Leave it gone, the ears were silly :/

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Fergus Meikleour
#28 - 2012-06-28 17:10:19 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Leave it gone, the ears were silly :/

Would you tell a Dilophosaurus (albeit the Jurassic Park version) that its frill was silly?

Not while it was eating your face you wouldn't :p
Gustav Knuttsen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-06-28 17:12:10 UTC
I love new vaga look ! Its awesome !. Maybe you should just add some more t2 details. Thats all. But Not freaking frill hated that "thing", was silly ... :D
LtCol Laurentius
The Imperial Sardaukar
#30 - 2012-06-28 17:12:19 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Leave it gone, the ears were silly :/

The ears is what makes a boring ol' stabber hull into a predator

CCP, bring back the Frill.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-28 17:28:17 UTC
This is the Minmatar nerf that nobody asked for!

I can't get uncircumcised in real life, but maybe my Vaga can!
Lazareth Toxin
Endless Cycle Inc.
#32 - 2012-06-28 17:50:07 UTC
Thank ******* God!!! someone cares about this disaster as much as I do....this was a complete failure on the part of the CCP ship designers, taking a legendary ships like the Vagabond and making them look like regular production ship so they can make their work on the ship skins easier to give us ******* "Hello Kittie" graphics, then sticking some lame ass solar-panel on the side with a few lights to make us feel OK with their changes...what are we idiots or noobs who don't know any better or give a ****???

Along with the tragic changes to the Vagabond, they have in my opinion destroyed the beauty of the faction ships such as the Tempest Fleet Issue by removing it's iconic rectangular fins and other parts of the model and the Typhoon Fleet Issue by removing it's mast scaffolding and fuzzy antennas, not to mention their earlier changes to all turrets which removed all the awesome tech 2 lights leaving all turrets looking like the tech 1 variants and while I'm at it they have over scaled the projectile turrets and made the architecture look clumsy and senseless.

CCP seems to have taken on a new game model and that is to make everything in EVE as simple and reproducible as possible to create an environment within the design departments of CCP that produces faster and cheaper, which is destroying the original creative works that have made EVE a uniquely beautiful and amazing experience.

I am really into the way my ships look and work as well as fly and fight and that is why I have stripped my Multi-Billion Isk Tempest Fleet Issue and Typhoon Fleet issue and placed them on the marker and will be doing the same to all my Vagabonds very soon...I once was a very proud Minmatar pilot and now I wish I was Amarrian!!!
Kuan Yida
Huang Yinglong
Electus Matari
#33 - 2012-06-28 18:00:15 UTC
The frill was silly, but it was a distinguishing characteristic for the beloved Vagabond. But perhaps something else could be added in lieu of full frill restoration? Calling CCP artists and also all those guys who did really cool ships designs for the ship design contest--how about a contest to see what can be added aesthetically to the Vagabond to set it apart? Something not frilly but more bad-ass?

I love the vaga, but TBH I'm more often found in Stabber Fleet Issues nowadays, as they fit into medium plexes. And are a lot cheaper.

The dragon knight treasures the state, friendship, duty, promises, kindness, vengeance, honor, and righteousness more than his own life._ _- The Way of the Dragon Warrior Random Posts from Auga

Noslen Nosilla
Federal Logistics Initiative Conglomerate
United Interests
#34 - 2012-06-28 18:35:38 UTC
I miss the frill Sad Bring it back!Bear

Be polite.

Be professional.

But have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#35 - 2012-06-28 18:37:54 UTC
Vagabond frill soup is barbaric.
In Fidem
#36 - 2012-06-28 18:39:50 UTC
The Frill - BRING IT BACK!

The State will not fall. Join us. Fight. Conquer.

edit: disregard that, the state has fallen.

Razor Bird
Arnon Area Search and Rescue
#37 - 2012-06-28 18:44:00 UTC
Uphold the frill.
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-06-28 18:46:02 UTC
No frill, no thrill!
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#39 - 2012-06-28 19:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Traug
In typical minnie fasion, they probably tried using the same duct tape to hold the frill on after the new paint job & detailed bits!


Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
#40 - 2012-06-28 19:07:39 UTC
Leave the frill out. When I get the spires back on my beloved Curse, the Mateary can get the frills back on their Vaga. I wholeheartedly approve of this change because I love these tears. Good job CCP.