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[PROPOSAL] Bring back the vagabond frill

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Orakkus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#201 - 2012-08-09 16:44:01 UTC
CCP Huskarl wrote:
Hey vagabonds

A number of you are missing the so called frills we had removed from the Vagabond during the v3 process, and I think it’s totally fair that I (the Art director) give you an explanation why we did that, and what our intentions (visually) are with the Vagabond in the future.

EVE is constantly under development and we in the art team look at the renovation process as an ongoing never-ending task that we love to keep working on alongside the new assets we make every year. Some players don’t like to see to many changes made to their beloved ships, but because of this, the fidelity of the game after all these years is still hard to beat and EVE keeps getting great reviews for the art every year.

However maybe the decision to remove the frill from the Vagabond was taken too lightly and I didn’t realize how attached to the look of the ship you were. To me, as the Art Director the Vagabond is a Thukker version of the Stabber, but with Brutor sails attached (rather badly, with intersecting polygons) to the bridge area that make the ship look a bit silly. But after giving it some thought I can understand the iconic appeal. I think you should get your frills back in some way or the other.

That being said, I always wanted to fix the old Stabber up a little bit and give it some more love. I’m not talking about a huge overall change to the ship. But rather just balancing a bit the engine area and making some parts a little more believable. This would of course give us a chance to give the Vagabond some extra care and design the frills with Thukker and some functionality in mind. I already have Stephan Stölting an amazing concept artist working on it and I promise to keep you posted about the development in the near future. Until we finish it you still have to live with a “no frills” Vagabond.

Regards CCP Huskarl


And there was much rejoicing! I am excited to see what you have in store!

He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander

Tanaka Aiko
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#202 - 2012-08-09 17:31:34 UTC
CCP Huskarl wrote:
I think you should get your frills back in some way or the other.

yeah ! ^^
CCP Huskarl wrote:
But rather just balancing a bit the engine area and making some parts a little more believable.

oh my, i always hreally hated this part of the ship design, hope i'll like the new version xD
gulftobay
Mesotopia
#203 - 2012-08-09 17:33:19 UTC
While I realize it's 'in the works', thank you so much for considering the feedback of your customers in this area - big props.
Vedrea
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#204 - 2012-08-09 18:01:36 UTC
This is great news!

Thank you for listening and responding, as someone said before.
Crassus Detlator
Freak World Carebear Kamikaze
#205 - 2012-08-09 18:45:44 UTC
Thank you very much CCP for listening and replying to us! +1
Fluffy Hyena
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#206 - 2012-08-09 20:31:19 UTC
Thanks CCP Huskarl and thanks CCP for making contact with us! Now I know how Roy Neary felt when the aliens finally made contact at the end of Close Encounter of the Third Kind.
Kristen Andelare
Abacus Industries Group
Aerodyne Collective
#207 - 2012-08-09 21:06:17 UTC
Thank You CCP Huskarl for your post and assuring us crazy Vaga lovers that their ships will once again be the space dragons of old in some fashion. And thanks CCP overall for listening to our cries from the wilderness.

+1 for Space Dragons!
Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#208 - 2012-08-09 22:01:58 UTC
CCP Huskarl wrote:
Awesomeness.


Just had a word with my contacts at the Tribe down in Great Wildlands, and they confirm you're pretty cool for a caldari.

Thank you.

PS: please also fix the manufacturer logos on the t2 versions.
Cecil Arongo
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#209 - 2012-08-10 02:46:32 UTC
CCP Huskarl wrote:
Hey vagabonds

A number of you are missing the so called frills we had removed from the Vagabond during the v3 process, and I think it’s totally fair that I (the Art director) give you an explanation why we did that, and what our intentions (visually) are with the Vagabond in the future.

EVE is constantly under development and we in the art team look at the renovation process as an ongoing never-ending task that we love to keep working on alongside the new assets we make every year. Some players don’t like to see to many changes made to their beloved ships, but because of this, the fidelity of the game after all these years is still hard to beat and EVE keeps getting great reviews for the art every year.

However maybe the decision to remove the frill from the Vagabond was taken too lightly and I didn’t realize how attached to the look of the ship you were. To me, as the Art Director the Vagabond is a Thukker version of the Stabber, but with Brutor sails attached (rather badly, with intersecting polygons) to the bridge area that make the ship look a bit silly. But after giving it some thought I can understand the iconic appeal. I think you should get your frills back in some way or the other.

That being said, I always wanted to fix the old Stabber up a little bit and give it some more love. I’m not talking about a huge overall change to the ship. But rather just balancing a bit the engine area and making some parts a little more believable. This would of course give us a chance to give the Vagabond some extra care and design the frills with Thukker and some functionality in mind. I already have Stephan Stölting an amazing concept artist working on it and I promise to keep you posted about the development in the near future. Until we finish it you still have to live with a “no frills” Vagabond.

Regards CCP Huskarl


Thank you much! We are Thukking thrilled at this new development :) Keep up the good work, and thanks for listening!

This is for all you new people: I have one rule. Everyone fights, no one quits. If you dont do your job I will shoot you myself. DO YOU GET ME?

Lex Bird
Lords Protectorate Inc.
#210 - 2012-08-10 02:55:52 UTC
Cecil Arongo wrote:

Thank you much! We are Thukking thrilled at this new development :) Keep up the good work, and thanks for listening!


Well soon you can be Thukking Frilled ;)
nomlet
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#211 - 2012-08-10 22:08:26 UTC
RAWR! TY! +1
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#212 - 2012-08-11 01:01:17 UTC
Ok...I hate Minmatar ships really but I just took a look at the Stabber...

Is this a joke?

I mean really...that ship is now the ship that looks the most like a penis in EVE and it is called the "Stabber"?

COME ON! lol!

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821

AveryFaneActual
PandoraSquad
#213 - 2012-08-11 02:25:41 UTC
The guy above me is FRILLING to listen to!
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#214 - 2012-09-11 12:34:05 UTC
Congrats to all who took part in this successful campaign and thank you to everyone for their efforts. CCP's Art Department remains the best in the world and they listen too.

Check out the new frills in this devblog.

I wonder if they're aware of the desire for the return of the Federation Navy Comet's flashy light and the Vexor's "face"?...
CCP Manifest
CCP Retirement Home
#215 - 2012-09-11 13:41:08 UTC
Seismic Stan wrote:
Congrats to all who took part in this successful campaign and thank you to everyone for their efforts. CCP's Art Department remains the best in the world and they listen too.

Check out the new frills in this devblog.

I wonder if they're aware of the desire for the return of the Federation Navy Comet's flashy light and the Vexor's "face"?...


I support this effort and the art department!

======== o7 _CCP Manifest | Public Relations and Social Media | @ccp_manifest_

Elmanketticks
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#216 - 2012-09-11 18:02:12 UTC
Quote:
As the icing on the cake from our Art department (many thanks to all the people involved, including the amazing CCP Phor), we would like to let you know that the many cries of despair from Stabber / Vagabond pilots have been heard, and you will also get revamped models as part of the winter deal.


http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63391/1/vagabond.jpg

This almost brought a tear to my eye. Thanks CCP!

The State will not fall. Join us. Fight. Conquer.

edit: disregard that, the state has fallen.

Nankeen Heron
Jim's Mowing
#217 - 2012-09-11 21:34:45 UTC
Elmanketticks wrote:
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63391/1/vagabond.jpg

This almost brought a tear to my eye. Thanks CCP!


Frills: check!
Restyling: hmm, it'll grow on me.
Two broken engines: it's Minmatar, alright... Lol
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#218 - 2012-09-13 08:08:41 UTC
Nankeen Heron wrote:
Elmanketticks wrote:
http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/63391/1/vagabond.jpg

This almost brought a tear to my eye. Thanks CCP!


Frills: check!
Restyling: hmm, it'll grow on me.
Two broken engines: it's Minmatar, alright... Lol


look at how the front has these sunken parts with lights under them... like the hurricane! brilliant!

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#219 - 2012-09-16 07:07:09 UTC
CCP Manifest wrote:
Seismic Stan wrote:
Congrats to all who took part in this successful campaign and thank you to everyone for their efforts. CCP's Art Department remains the best in the world and they listen too.

Check out the new frills in this devblog.

I wonder if they're aware of the desire for the return of the Federation Navy Comet's flashy light and the Vexor's "face"?...


I support this effort and the art department!


Seriously, I should probably pay attention more.. Shocked It's taken me 3 days to find this, since the first post I noticed related to it. I haven't been actively searching of course, but you'd think I'd have noticed. Smile
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