Warfare & Tactics

You sound a bit embarrassed about the complete trouncing your side now has on your permanent war record.

You are horrible at psychoanalysis. The fact that two random goons went and welped their personal jump freighters on the Jita undock doesn't make a scratch on the fact that we have fought and conquered half the galaxy. When we're doing actual, real wars, we often lose 50 billion isk fleets of maelstroms every week.

We had a war?

War is nice.

1) mittani launches campaign against small specific targets he's buttsore about
2) it doesnt work
3) ????
4) now we have the 1.1 mechanics which are pretty ****** all round

At the end of the day it just bothers me that CCP will rush in to balance/fix the 50-allies thing but will take a year to (or never) balance the ******** exponential costs that end up with three hundred thousand dollar ally costs

We're not going to get very far in a discussion if you insist on telling lies and making ridiculous statements in your first sentence.

As I said, unless you can post truthfully for a least one sentence (the first one) there isn't going to be a discussion. You need to accept that you have a pretty terrible reputation at the moment "zim". Your credibility is at an all time low and claiming that another player is "exploiting" a game mechanic when there is a devblog that specifically mentions "unlimited allies" available on these forums is not going to add much to your rep. Just accept you lost the war and have had your blushes spared by CCP nerfing wardec ally mechanic. It'll be far easier on your ego in the long run!

If the limit of your intellect is reached with "no you are" responses then there isn't much more to say on your issue.

Sure, I said right at the beginning of my posting in the wardec changes thread that the first people who kicked your teeth in using the new wardec system were Honda Accord. Your representatives started bleating at that point. The crying only reached a fever pitch after we decided to lock you into the conflict with mutual wardec however.

Via his proxy on the CSM yes completely. For a guy like Mittani nothing short of total crushing victory and the bleating of his foes is "enough." To see his own side kicked down the stairs is a difficult pill to take. By all means have a listen to the Seleene and Twostep podcast before the CSM summit and listen to the "plight" of the poor nullsec alliances discussed (I'm sure I've already linked this to you several times btw.) http://tacticalentertainment.tv/archives/2022 (45mins in)



Absolutely. Its not about the ISK as I've been trying to tell you. Its about the embarrassment of being kicked to the curb by "pubbies." The Lord of the Goons cannot withstand that kind of humiliation easily.



CCP and CSM responses on the issue have been universally poor. Most genuine neutral feedback to these changes and to CCP and CSM posting has been quite negative. CCP have been evasive, ignored debate, and stuck to a dogmatic position. CSM (when they have posted at all) have been confused, contradictory or openly hostile to players questioning this mechanic. As I've said elsewhere the real scandal here is that neither CCP nor the current CSM have any clue how to balance the wardec system, how hisec wars are prosecuted, or even what the point of hisec wars are in the current state of the game.



As I said in my Eve News24 article, this is not corruption so much as rampant fanboyism. I think the developers in question clearly have no knowledge of the wardec system as players, they are attempting to impose a "solution" dictated from an ideological position derived from HTFU mixed with "Eve isn't fair!" (whilst somewhat comedically affixing numerous bandaids to spare 0.0 blushes from the "unfair" social consequences of defensive ally "dogpiles."

CCP Soniclover said in his blog to introduce the 1.0 wardec changes that in Eve its important to have friends to join you in wars. Well Mittani made war on me and I found quite a lot of friends. So many in fact that a kneejerk fix has now raised the price of adding the 52nd friend to $300,000 dollars in RL currency.

Goonspiracy you ask? Well, I hesitate to ascribe malignant motives to a debacle achieved through simple ignorance and star-struck fanboyism. But it is clear the current CSM have failed near-completely to present a balanced case on wardecs to CCP, and CCP (perhaps partially-acknowledging how poor the CSM was at this job) seem to have completely ignored them (and the player base of course).

The outcome is a terrible cludge that is going to choke off hisec war participation for six months to come. Mercenary corps will not benefit. Dynamic war-fighting will not benefit. Only winners from this are nullsec alliances who now have a 300,000 dollar RL wardec shield to protect them from the social consequences of alienating all and sundry in hisec.

Still, goons will claim a victory in achieving this nerf (and demand people come fight them in nullsec moon-goo-land) while hisec fighters will keep ganking the occassional freighters and fighting as underdogs within the rules and against the advise of CCP how suggested we might join mega-alliances for the purpose of dealing with 50m isk income wardecs.

So it turns.

But ultimately, your permanent war-record shows you got mauled by defensive coalitions in the name of Honda Accord and Star Fraction. That has to smart!