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Arathul
PH0ENIX COMPANY
#281 - 2012-06-27 07:21:20 UTC
ive been playing for a while and i gotta say this lag is too much for me i cant even float in space without running 5-10 fps which is sad for a decent computer and normally i can run duel and this is with a single client
Zleon Leigh
#282 - 2012-06-27 09:02:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Zleon Leigh
Lost a long time corp mate to game issues yesterday. As in - unsub. He finally had had enough of broken mechanics and fail patches. Gave away his stuff, unsubbed, and trashed the game off his pc.

There are consequences to poor quality and failure to listen to your customers.

Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day

PvP's latest  incentive program ** Unified Inventory **  'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it
Zleon Leigh
#283 - 2012-06-27 09:12:01 UTC
When did we loose the cycle time ring on MWD's? Was this intentional?

Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital. CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day

PvP's latest  incentive program ** Unified Inventory **  'Cause you gotta kill something after trying to use it
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#284 - 2012-06-27 09:28:41 UTC
Zleon Leigh wrote:
Lost a long time corp mate to game issues yesterday. As in - unsub. He finally had had enough of broken mechanics and fail patches. Gave away his stuff, unsubbed, and trashed the game off his pc.

There are consequences to poor quality and failure to listen to you customers.

It is sad to hear that. But understandable. After more than 4 years of continued subscription I do not play this game since 22.05.2012 (roll out for Inferno and this stupid unified UI) Cry
Furthermore it seems to be that CCP dont cares about the concerns of its customers. This is also sad.

They simulate to listen and ask the damn same question hundred times again and open several threads around their forum but ignore the damn same answer from many different, loyal paying customers.

Even worse.. they troll the customers. I know what I am saying. The best answer was from a Dev similar to "OK! Now shut up! Do not post the same idea every time. I do not answer to your concerns or ideas!"
They do patching the wrong things and claim "That we have listened to the customers feedback. And we are the best CCP in the world because no one other listen to the customer. We are the only company in the web who does that."

Poor behavior CCP. Perhaps you can muck the new players with your apologizes and letters from your CEO. But I do not believe your tissue of lies anymore. Every time you do an apologize it is just a PR stunt. Nothing more! I am too long here.. I know how CCP Devs work. We do what we want; wait what the customer will do but absolute deny every statement to the concerns of players; except they are shooting statues in Jita or set the forum on fire.

Sh!t.. I have paid you for more than 4 years, just to end it like that!
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#285 - 2012-06-27 10:06:50 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Rayford Carpathia wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
OlRotGut wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
The range of new clothing choices released at he NEx is very poor (only 13 new pieces for female) and unappealing. Also, most of the new assets still are unfindable at the Jita market 24 hours after being seeded, which IMO casts a serious doubt about their availability.

I will spare to comment as I don't plan to be banned anytime soon, but today i just feel like someone spitted my face with Incarna 1.0 and now did it again with Inferno 1.1.



ya might wanna change your signature.. ;)


No point bothering, just resubbed for a month to pay for an Orca, now it's done and my alt will be gone in three days. As for this one, i'll see what to do when it comes the time, but obviously i'm not going to go shopping around for clothes as there are no clothes worth shopping. It's like being back to june 2011.


You're quitting the game because there are no clothes for you to buy? Did I read that correctly?


I already left the game, rejoined for some stuff and hoped to stay for clothing, now the stuff is done and i got no clothing, so i'm reverting to unsubbed.


Well, i for one am not too upset that CCP isnt catering for the guys who just sit and fap to their toon in CQ and never undock.
Fascist Jockitch
ELUSH Rehab
#286 - 2012-06-27 11:02:36 UTC

Thanks for the slight improvements to the inventory system... However, you are missing the point.

Unified Inventory is COMPLETELY BROKEN.

My shift key is now completely gone. Seriously, having to continuously hold the shift key has finally caused physical damage to my keyboard.

FIX IT

We don't want inventory "unified" by default. We want windows to open independently, like they did before. Make unification an option and stop being n-a_z-i-s.
Deheler
Muggers Inc.
#287 - 2012-06-27 11:19:19 UTC
No wonder things get confusing sometimes:

2012-06-26T10:46:38Z
EVE Online: Inferno 1.1.1 to be deployed on Tuesday, June 26


2012-06-27T10:39:54Z
EVE Online: Inferno 1.1.2 to be deployed on Tuesday, June 27


http://community.eveonline.com/
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#288 - 2012-06-27 11:20:31 UTC
Kim Blackstone wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Actually i hope someone competent DOES decide to step into the internet spaceship market, for my sake.


I'm beginning to have the same sentiment.



In the years I have been playing, I never though that I would say this, but.... me too.

It makes me sad that CCP have made its customers feel like this through sheer bloody mindedness and refusal to admit that they have screwed up and fix it.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#289 - 2012-06-27 11:22:08 UTC
Fascist Jockitch wrote:

Thanks for the slight improvements to the inventory system... However, you are missing the point.

Unified Inventory is COMPLETELY BROKEN.

My shift key is now completely gone. Seriously, having to continuously hold the shift key has finally caused physical damage to my keyboard.

FIX IT

We don't want inventory "unified" by default. We want windows to open independently, like they did before. Make unification an option and stop being n-a_z-i-s.


Could we just have double click back to open things again, that would be much simpler. I haven't tried looting anything since the patch the other day, but the lag when looting from multiple cans was horrendous again. I'll go see if it's any better after this one.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#290 - 2012-06-27 11:36:58 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Rayford Carpathia wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
OlRotGut wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
The range of new clothing choices released at he NEx is very poor (only 13 new pieces for female) and unappealing. Also, most of the new assets still are unfindable at the Jita market 24 hours after being seeded, which IMO casts a serious doubt about their availability.

I will spare to comment as I don't plan to be banned anytime soon, but today i just feel like someone spitted my face with Incarna 1.0 and now did it again with Inferno 1.1.



ya might wanna change your signature.. ;)


No point bothering, just resubbed for a month to pay for an Orca, now it's done and my alt will be gone in three days. As for this one, i'll see what to do when it comes the time, but obviously i'm not going to go shopping around for clothes as there are no clothes worth shopping. It's like being back to june 2011.


You're quitting the game because there are no clothes for you to buy? Did I read that correctly?


I already left the game, rejoined for some stuff and hoped to stay for clothing, now the stuff is done and i got no clothing, so i'm reverting to unsubbed.


Some things defy belief
azurefox
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#291 - 2012-06-27 12:06:42 UTC  |  Edited by: azurefox
1. See below - This gives us back the flexibility that we had pre Unified UI.
2. Tree View minimised as Default (except for when you press the Inventory Button... so simple, yet so right)

Rommiee wrote:

1. Bring back the buttons for Ships, Items, Corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position.

2. Bring back the right click options on ships for opening drone bay, cargo bay, ore hold, ship maintenance bay, fuel bay, corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. It is REALLY not a bad thing to have right click options that improve functionality. Remove the redundant ones, like undock etc.

3. When in space, make the cargo icon open the cargo bay only (Cargo icon = cargo bay << simple). Make this open in a separate window with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. If we want the inventory, we can use the icon in the Neocom, that’s what it is for (Inventory icon = inventory << again simple)

These are very simple fixes, which would go a long way to reducing the disgust and contempt people have for CCP at the moment, I cannot believe that they would be difficult to implement. So, please put your ego’s away and just do it.

Blade straight, steel true
Gutuie
#292 - 2012-06-27 12:14:12 UTC
All this new UI is complete crap and the point to fix something what was working before better then now is a mistery for me. You guys from CCP u get paid for this well i want a job there i can deliver more damage then u if this is the point. I suggest to your dev team if they own cars,go to the repair shop and ask those ppl to improve it but in the end to be worst, is exactly what u did with eve

There was a time when CCP was in "war with lag" congrats u lose it with your called improvements

I just wanna know in what program in this world double click is not working and all ppl are going back in the time (when mouse was just a future) to use shift and all others key to open a stupid window.
btw if u wanna make ppl to not loot u almost there this task is a nightmare I DONT NEED ESTIMATED PRICE make it optional

I remember when CCP deploy the stupid room with a closed door performance of computers was dropping down, CCP point is with every patch is to melt some rigs? What dramatic changes u did in game mechanics to increase usage of computers?

Why CCP ignore feedback from sisi and from tq, how u did it after a patch of a patch ... just close sisi at this point and with your game politicy is nothing more then consuming resources for nothing and increase your electricity bill

To many fireworks every patch i started to believe CCP is a DRAMAQUEEN who need to be spanked, but dont forget in life every nice lady is getting old and ppl want something young and fresh. Keep it this way and ccp will became the lone old/maybe fat lady living from remembers and memories Ugh
azurefox
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#293 - 2012-06-27 12:19:14 UTC  |  Edited by: azurefox
+1
None ofthe Above wrote:
- Opening up wrecks and cans in secondary windows and making them go away when emptied would probably also make a few people less irate with you. Perhaps even happy.


And while you're at it, how about highlighting the actual day in the calendar (In-Game and EVE Gate) in green so that I can actually find it without searching...

Blade straight, steel true
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#294 - 2012-06-27 12:20:49 UTC
azurefox wrote:
1. See below - This gives us back the flexibility that we had pre Unified UI.
2. Tree View minimised as Default (except for when you press the Inventory Button... so simple, yet so right)

Rommiee wrote:

1. Bring back the buttons for Ships, Items, Corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position.

2. Bring back the right click options on ships for opening drone bay, cargo bay, ore hold, ship maintenance bay, fuel bay, corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. It is REALLY not a bad thing to have right click options that improve functionality. Remove the redundant ones, like undock etc.

3. When in space, make the cargo icon open the cargo bay only (Cargo icon = cargo bay << simple). Make this open in a separate window with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. If we want the inventory, we can use the icon in the Neocom, that’s what it is for (Inventory icon = inventory << again simple)

These are very simple fixes, which would go a long way to reducing the disgust and contempt people have for CCP at the moment, I cannot believe that they would be difficult to implement. So, please put your ego’s away and just do it.


I actually like the new inventory, but options are always better than not-options.

Occasionally plays sober
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#295 - 2012-06-27 12:46:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Jett0 wrote:
azurefox wrote:
1. See below - This gives us back the flexibility that we had pre Unified UI.
2. Tree View minimised as Default (except for when you press the Inventory Button... so simple, yet so right)

Rommiee wrote:

1. Bring back the buttons for Ships, Items, Corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position.

2. Bring back the right click options on ships for opening drone bay, cargo bay, ore hold, ship maintenance bay, fuel bay, corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. It is REALLY not a bad thing to have right click options that improve functionality. Remove the redundant ones, like undock etc.

3. When in space, make the cargo icon open the cargo bay only (Cargo icon = cargo bay << simple). Make this open in a separate window with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. If we want the inventory, we can use the icon in the Neocom, that’s what it is for (Inventory icon = inventory << again simple)

These are very simple fixes, which would go a long way to reducing the disgust and contempt people have for CCP at the moment, I cannot believe that they would be difficult to implement. So, please put your ego’s away and just do it.


I actually like the new inventory, but options are always better than not-options.


What do you like about it?

Is it that it has more clicks to do anything?
Is it that the things you have to click on are often 4 pixels wide?
Is it that just a moments hesitation or thought is actually a command when you are mid way through dragging and item
is it that before you drag an item you have to line up your navigation pane with the destination before you begin and then a moments hovering in the wrong place and you have to drop the stuff back down (even though the only place do drop it is now the incorrect location you just opened by accident) and navigate the navigation pane back to where you were?
Is it that just to get to most places like drone/fuel bays and back to cargo is now multiple clicks and some scrolling?
Is it that you like the delay in displaying anything? With the loot all button killing fps on my epic PC to less than 10fps for nearly 2 seconds.
Is it that you never move things from one place to another, of if you do you want it to be as labour intensive as possible?
Is it because you always used to have the windows open in default places before the change and never attempted to explore the customization options that USED to be available to you?
Is it that you like to end up with no end of windows stacked up that show the exact same ship cargo bay even though you did nothing out of the ordinary?
is it that you like holding shift to get similar but very limited functionality akin to what we used to have?
Is it that you like being told the value of your haul even though its so inaccurate that its useless?
Is it that you didnt want the huge vertical portions of the inventory windows that are now dedicated to empty space next to the aforementioned useless value indication and item count and the oversized capacity chart.
Is it that the people who decided that all this was an 'awesome' idea are also making upcoming decisions on other aspects of the game and as such its beginning to look like peoples years of gaming investment is on thin ice.

These are just a few highlights, please do go on and point some out of your favourite parts.
Tequila Breeze
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#296 - 2012-06-27 13:00:57 UTC
anyone willing to trade diablo3 characters for my eve characters ?
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#297 - 2012-06-27 13:10:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Jett0 wrote:
I actually like the new inventory, but options are always better than not-options.


By the way, I also noticed the "epic" performance while looting wrecks, whereas I have grown used to re-open the UI each time I dock into station. Also, being slightly visually impaired, I tell you that it's amazing to see in how many wrong places you can drop the cursor even with the interface at 110%... i am averaging a bit below 2 trys for each drag & drop from window to tree.

CCP just lost the knack to get things right, even essentlals like that some jobs are done better with multiple windows and a single window can never outperform that.

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#298 - 2012-06-27 13:19:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Callidus Dux
'http://community.eveonline.com' wrote:


Account Management downtime on Wednesday, June 27

The EVE Online Account Management will be taken offline and will be not available from 11:15 UTC to 12:15 UTC on Wednesday, June 27.

We apologize for any inconvenience due to this downtime.

Update: The Account Management downtime had to be extended for an unknown amount of time due to unforseen problems.


Is CCP trying to stop the wave of unsubscription? *tease
No just a joke. I do not know what you are working for the account management at this moment. You can do .. take your time you need but work exhaustive. I can only hope that no one from the UI Team is trying to "improve" the Account Management page. Lol
disasteur
disasterous industries
#299 - 2012-06-27 13:22:38 UTC
Callidus Dux wrote:
'http://community.eveonline.com' wrote:


Account Management downtime on Wednesday, June 27

The EVE Online Account Management will be taken offline and will be not available from 11:15 UTC to 12:15 UTC on Wednesday, June 27.

We apologize for any inconvenience due to this downtime.

[b] Update: The Account Management downtime had to be extended for an unknown amount of time due to unforseen problems.[/b]


Is CCP trying to stop the wave of unsubscription? *tease
No just a joke. I do not know what you are working for the account management at this moment. You can do .. take your time you need but work exhaustive. I can only hope that no one from the UI Team is trying to "improve" the Account Management page. Lol



they are probably trying to make it a unified inventory look a like Cool
Kim Blackstone
Mineski Infinity
Pandemic Horde
#300 - 2012-06-27 13:52:23 UTC
Still no fix for the LOL frame rate. And to make decent frame rate I have to drop settings to make my spaceships look like plastic toys. Can't believe just 2 days ago I could be on mostly high settings. Best part is, having open (static) windows actually is the biggest performance hit on frame rate... go figure how a 2D element is more graphic intensive than 3D spaceships.

So discouraged to play now, I just want to get off every time I log in. Makes me wonder why I'm paying these hard earned dollars for this crap. I came in thinking - hey TQ, supercomputer cluster on an MMO! These guys must know what they're doing; man I couldn't be further from the truth.

NEVER in any MMO I've played, consistently released unplayable patch versions, break things over and over again. Responded to critical problems so slowly. And these MMO were not run by 600 professionals, just by a few script kiddies who doesn't even get paid for their job. Their test server releases are better written than TQ releases. What a joke.

It just pains me to keep voting my money on lousy organizations like CCP. I can't believe I'm thinking of unsubing just after a few months in this MMO (making it the shortest). If things don't improve by the time my sub runs out... o7 it was a good run with you pilots.