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I'm going to the Newcastle meet.

I'm sure the UI will be 'discussed.'

Great. The only guy that likes the new inventory is someone who didn't undock for the last month.

vOv what can I say I've been shooting dudes instead of running missions or using a POS or whatever it is boring people do

Regardless, if I say the inventory works for me because X and others say it doesn't work for them because Y, it might give a better idea of what areas need a look at. I hope. ;)

Good luck with that.

Sit close to a brick wall so that you don't have to go far to find something to bang your head against. :)

Having tried out the game of Eve for around 3 years now and absorbed adapted and changed my workflows and game style to suite this new game I’ve finally come to a conclusion.

This version of Eve has ’run it’s course’ and the best thing CCP could do is put a skeleton crew on maintenance duty to keep it going and devote everyone else to making a new Eve starting from the ground up.

Call it ‘Eve Rebooted’ or something, but this time program it in an industry standard language like C++, C or something, not an interpreted language like python.
Use proper change logs, documentation, roll back procedures and do it properly not this, let’s add another kludge to the kludge we added to the kludge added last week.

Sorry CCP programmers but with all the best will in the world this new UI, the new War changes, the so called V3 ship changes and the graphics and sound engines that seem to do everything but what we want them too, has really reached the end of the road.

Pretty much this.

Soundwave, you've got to think of it like Windows. If you have 2 folders staring at you on your desktop that you need to move files between, are you going to open up windows explorer, navigate to your desktop and move the files that way or are you going to open those two folders and move the files?

Oh and the hover over "switch" of the main window is really annoying.


Also, if Eve is now going to require more than one core of utilization on a quad core CPU, you might want to allow the client to utilize multiple cores. Right now the client is bottlenecking because it's using one core entirely and looks like it wants to use more, but it can't.

Still downloading patch, but going from the notes, there are not tons. There are 4 bulletpoints.

Lets have a look at them.

first one: purely cosmetic (colours/icons). Can help (like discerning between BPO and BPC helps).

second one: minor behaviour change: change to scrollspeed (if you click the up/down widgets). Pointless if you just grab and drag the scrollbar. Still missing the mark.

third one: bugfix to filters. They now remember their state correctly. Correction of error/omission is not change in intended behaviour.

fourth and last one: Clarification. And unfortunately you keep wanting to push ALT-C for inventory, while people for years have used that bind for ship Cargo.

Summing up, for our point of view we got: 1 cosmetic, 1 bugfix, 1 clarification (documentation) and a (tiny) improvement to scrollbar widgets.

What we did NOT get: anything that substantially improves upon the complaints about use and screen realestate.

You are far from done with changing it. We understand that you have some pride/PR/image issues with doing anything that might be construed as "players being right and devs being wrong", but HTFU and do it.
We are not asking for miracles, just a few layout optimizations along with some (shift)(double)click, contextmenu and (key)bind changes/additions, to bring it on par with the old.

And for the the asshats who still think this is a bot/macro complaint thing, you are so very very wrong. If anything, this just piles more pressure on wanting to use 3rdparty software to escape from having to do it the way CCP has degraded it to.
If you have ever used a macro programs for desktop automation (e.g. clicking/hotkeying through menus with a single hotkey press), you will understand.

Lets say you dock and want do the following:

Unload all ore to hangar floor and then undock
Easy peasy, just a simple update needed. Still very much macroable of course.

Or bit more complicated, dock in your noctic, dump cargo to a specific container, 'stack all' in that, and swich to your probe or mission ship, depending on whether you are a ninja/explorer or a missioner.
As simple as the ore example, just a bit longer.

Macroing and bots have nothing to do with the complains about the UI, instead it in fact makes macroing/botting considerably more desirable, due to the UI change feeling like a punishment to the 'honest citizens'.
Do you get what I mean? You know, good lord, any inventor using macroing to do automate the clickhell windows has my blessing and I will most likely not tell on them and feel quite sympathetic to their use of it as long as it is restrained to that part of the game.

Minmatar Ships are now really what they should be I think. They are pretty COOL but I think there are nondistinct windows and lights on some Minamatar ships now such as Vagabond. Just looks like shadowy blue texture. But its cool anyways.

At the risk of ridicule......here goes.

For someone who left this game approx 5 years ago and just came back last week.


The game looks great, it is soooooooo much easier to become immersed in this universe now. Yes the learning curve (in my case re-learning) is still large, but it is no where near as large as it was 5 years ago.

I don't really remember the old inventory system, but the current one was not that hard for me to grasp and control.

I do remember the old rust and corrosion on the Minmatar, and I have currently only seen just a few ships during my return, but the ships look fantastic compared to the way I remember them.

I did notice a slight, maybe 5 or 7 drop in fps, but I have a feeling this will improve over the next few sessions.


The game, in my opinion, is awesome compared to 5 years ago.




my $.02 spent

^^ THIS people.