EVE General Discussion

Have you tried wormholes? If you have a second account you can scan down a wh pretty quickly, scout it out, jump in and clear it in a PvE ship and salvage behind yourself on the alt.

Do it at night time while the wh owners are sleeping. Makes them all very happy.

It's OK, fight the good fight. I've always been a one-char person. I'm limited, I suppose, but it's never bothered me.

I manage productions jobs once every 3-7 days.

Everything about the market is "competetive" until you're able to find something that's been overlooked, or you can force competition out.

There's only a low profit margin on T1 ships if you're selling them in the same place as a dozen other people.

I make a lot of ISK manufacturing, but I also spend most of what I make manufacturing. It's like a business. If I want to grow my business it means constantly reinvesting. However, I'm not manufacturing to support anything other then manufacturing.

Manufacturing takes about as much effort as doing dedicated station trading.

Pro tip for the OP:

Don't play harder, play better.


You don't need grueling game play to make money.

You need to use less the hands and more the brain (this might be hard for some).
This will need a bit of work before hand, then the income will come by itself.

You are best using a mix of AFK income sources:

PI of course and then get some faction standing up by doing SoE epic arc and COSMOS.
At this point you will be able to do L3 missions. With a Drake it takes 15 mins to do one tops.

Or you can do AFK haul missions that give no money but close to AFK standings.

Once you can do L4 missions you can effectively:

- Get 4 L4 datacore agents
- Run a L4 mission or 2 once in a while. If you are in RvB they'll pretty much keep you paid for a while
- Put down a POS and create BPCs for contracts sale. Very AFK and gives a decent income if you know what to sell. Takes lot of time to get the fat and expensive BPOs running though.
- Have nice discounts at trading

Regarding trading you can do a mix of remote station trading (even while you are staging to PvP!) and more AFK methods like The Slow Sell System for Lazy Marketeers or even my much more advanced EvE swing trading

Then you could upgrade yourself to the next level, get known on a forum and enter the metagame EvE "endgame".

With all of the above I make from 2 to 7B a month, can do it all with one account.

You can also do exploration (3/4 and 4/4 DED in hi sec and some others, or more in low sec) for very random ISK. You can get from 5M to 500M a "pop" depending what you do. In hi sec you can get 70-80M per lucky site.


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You could mine. But making good money with it is more dangerous, takes longer, you'll have to remap to stats against your PvP path and really needs 4-5 accounts to setup a good AFK setup that brings in 2-4B a month.

I do some production to add to my income, and if you look around, you can find niche markets were you can make good margins on t1 equipment. But it means spending some time researching the local markets.

Being in highsec though, the OP might have a harder time finding a niche. But since production is such low effort, it might still be worth it. It is a lot like PI in terms of effort. Button clicking and hauling. I actually do production in the same system I do PI in just to keep my flying around wth expensive stuff to a minimum.


Also, instead of trading at the major hubs, try selling in-demand consumables in other systems. Ammo and drones suited for local rats or missions, probes, mining drones and crystals. Sort of like a convenience store, and as long as you are near hub prices people will buy off you rather then travel so many jumps. Between all the systems in high and lowsec, there have to be some out of the way systems where you could probably make some easy money selling ammo and stuff.

edit; The guy above me has similar sort of idea. The buy back program is a nice touch too.