EVE New Citizens Q&A

Currently running lvl 3 missions and finishing up the SOE level 1 epic arc then off to do the Gallente and Minmatar tutorial missions and Circle missions. Have solid flying skills and trade skills with some PI to do a couple planets. Current plan is to finish my current PI plan then train up some exploring skills for the Hawk (few days) then R&D, Industry & Trade then BS.

PI - This looks like a low maintence passive income maker as you only need to tend your PI daily once it is all setup. Making T2 components, then deliver to market to sell. From what I understand it isn't as profitable as it was in the past but looking at my spreadsheets, there is still some passive income to be made here. Once my PI training is complete (Interplanetary Consolodation LvL 4 (2 currently), I will move to R&D Agents.

R&D Agents - This looks like another solid way of having a passive income, but same as PI, not as good as it used to be but still profitable. Approach here is to train up Project Management to LvL 3.

Research/Industry - This looks like it will be a bit more passive as well as long term as the ques are quite long for research. So the plan here is to skill up the research skills for ME, PE, etc (some crossover from the R&D above) then while my BPCs are in que for research, train up the Industry skills in prep for making goodies.

Trade - Need a week or 2 to finish up some trade skills (not sure if i want to target Tycoon or just Wharehouse) once Industry skills are where I want them. Right now doing station and hub trading while running missions and high sec exploring.

Are there any other "passive inclomes" I should consider?

Now with all that said, I am running level 3's comfortably in a drake (all T2 fitted with exception of launchers and drones). Would it be better to pause on the passive income plan and finish off to battleship, T2 launchers, and t2 drones then work on the passive incomes? I'm thinking right now work on the passive income skills while I knock off the SOE arc and the minmatar and gallente tutorials and circle missions, and even then I still have the data center missions for each faction so I feel I have plenty to do before i need a lvl 4 mission battleship (shooting for SNI by the way).

I also need to find a corp...

Well, yes and no. I think it depends on what you are trading. Right now I have 53 orders, I try to keep them split between buy and sell (no duplicates either) and my sell orders always sell out before my buy orders fill, and I only update my sell orders 2-4 times a day. I can sit in Jita playing the .01 isk game but truly not necessary as it doesn't matter because everything always sells out anyhow, and I always have items to sell with my buy orders always filling throughout the day. So I think it depends on quantiy selling and how fast it moves in Jita. Now with that said however, I am definately not making as much as I was when I constantly babysat all of my orders.

Noob question, what does PI stand for?

Also, I learned a lot from this thread. Thank you.

Doh! Yeah, you are probably right. I kept thinking it was some specific activity, like a mission type or something.

PI is less profitable then before cause other higher NPC tax on Custom Offices in high-sec.

R&D now demands ISK to buy datacores instead of just RP (Research Points - for the new players). So there is also less income from that.

But your list is more or less good.

PI and R&D are the most passive income (keep in mind PI is as passive as you want, but the less time invested, the lower the output).

The answer you really want to read: Yes there's more passive ways to make isk like mining moons however if it's profitable people will try to steal it (more profitable more people try to steal it)

TIP: If you want to make passing income like that you should get proper skill and standings for datacores and then join a WH/0.0 corp for the PI this way you will maximize both incomes and the research it's very simple you can still do then in WH/0.0 POS the only thing you have to bother is with logistics but many corps/alliance have then you just need to look for them

PI is a low-work income. If you make simple items and sell them you only need to invest a little time and money every couple days. Nice thing is that if you forget, not a big deal.

R&D agents. Long train time, but there is money there. I would put it on the back burner for a while while you work toward L4 capabilities. You need to grind the crop standings and their things like refining and LP store tend to suck.

Research/Industry - Not passive. You need to pay for it. Running a small POS is about 3.5-5 million isk a day (maybe more, I got out of it) to do research at. Unfortunately the NPC high-sec research stations are almost always pegged. You can try low-sec. Not as scary as it sounds, but there is always a risk.

Trade is not passive, it takes work, the only thing passive is waiting for orders to fill or sell. Arguably L4s are less work once your skills are up, but in the long run you can make a lot of money so long as you have money to invest. That 'investment' is the part that requires patients, and a lot of people don't have it. Read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=87024

If you are like a couple of my friends, don't forget to use your Loyalty Points you get for missions. Things like implants always turn a nice profit, even if you are in a hurry. One friend of mine pulled in 750 million isk after he had burned up all his points (his first CEO told him LP is worthless).