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Destruction Testing the New Wardec System (Ganks Included - Free wardec inside)

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#121 - 2012-06-13 19:06:59 UTC
these things you're saying make no sense and i have no idea what you wish to get at, my only conclusion is you are seeking to filibuster the discussion by saying nonsensical things until everyone leaves then claim victory

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2012-06-13 19:07:25 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
It's interesting, because you guys didn't wardec the "bigger" highsec alliances, or those most likely to actually fight you... Most people you've "decced" in highsec are probably allies of defendors (but don't quote me)


Which bigger high sec alliance could actually hurt us? Which ones have the organization and drive to take a tech moon? Which ones run organized territory claiming/defending ops? The current state says none. Will it be the wonderful Science and Trade Institute, lead by you the amazing NPC alt?

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zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#123 - 2012-06-13 19:15:00 UTC
weaselior, if you really believe all the stuff you've been saying, then don't try to understand the rest, you won't be able to

nariz, "hurt" was a strong word, i should've said "that actually undock"
and be careful, we got spais everywhere...
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#124 - 2012-06-13 19:18:40 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
zxc Uisen wrote:
It's interesting, because you guys didn't wardec the "bigger" highsec alliances, or those most likely to actually fight you... Most people you've "decced" in highsec are probably allies of defendors (but don't quote me)


Which bigger high sec alliance could actually hurt us? Which ones have the organization and drive to take a tech moon?


All of them are in OTEC

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Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2012-06-13 19:18:48 UTC
That's the joke

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zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#126 - 2012-06-13 19:20:36 UTC
lol, talk about risk averse...
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#127 - 2012-06-13 19:33:48 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
weaselior, if you really believe all the stuff you've been saying, then don't try to understand the rest, you won't be able to

nariz, "hurt" was a strong word, i should've said "that actually undock"
and be careful, we got spais everywhere...

i would enjoy you trying to explain your reasoning it would be ever so delightful

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#128 - 2012-06-13 19:33:59 UTC
right now you're just pulling a Jade

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#129 - 2012-06-13 19:41:14 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Aryndel Vyst wrote:
Looking forward to the war dec changes in the next patch Inferno 1.Get owned Jade Constantine


Well biggest alliance in the game needed CCP to protect them in a wardec against a 73 man alliance because they were getting owned by the Inferno ally system. Its a little piece of Eve history right there Cool


Kudos to you Jade for exploring the new war dec system and all of its implications.

If, what you say is true then it would mean there really is a limit to player driven content - it would be not what you know, but who you know in CCP. I seriously hope Goons do not have a hotline to the CCP WHAAAAAAmbulance.

At this point I'm unsure whether to be sad or just grab my tinfoil hat. Ugh
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#130 - 2012-06-13 19:41:35 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
right now you're just pulling a Jade


crap, they know!

Weaselior wrote:

i would enjoy you trying to explain your reasoning it would be ever so delightful


i'll say it so there's no misunderstanding:
goons had a game feature go against them, ccp "fixed" it, the way they saw fit (loudest voices got their way), and now you're saving face by changing the message to "ccp fixes broken mechanic".
zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#131 - 2012-06-13 19:44:48 UTC
Kinis Deren wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Aryndel Vyst wrote:
Looking forward to the war dec changes in the next patch Inferno 1.Get owned Jade Constantine


Well biggest alliance in the game needed CCP to protect them in a wardec against a 73 man alliance because they were getting owned by the Inferno ally system. Its a little piece of Eve history right there Cool


Kudos to you Jade for exploring the new war dec system and all of its implications.

If, what you say is true then it would mean there really is a limit to player driven content - it would be not what you know, but who you know in CCP. I seriously hope Goons do not have a hotline to the CCP WHAAAAAAmbulance.

At this point I'm unsure whether to be sad or just grab my tinfoil hat. Ugh


i doubt they have much direct efffect on ccp's decisions (from former goons now devs, as some ppl said)
but they do have a lot of presence on forums (goons&friends), and access to csm
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#132 - 2012-06-13 19:53:34 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:

i'll say it so there's no misunderstanding:
goons had a game feature go against them, ccp "fixed" it, the way they saw fit (loudest voices got their way), and now you're saving face by changing the message to "ccp fixes broken mechanic".

except ccp has repeatedly confirmed that not only did goonswarm not complain but this change started getting worked on even before jade started trying to pull this exploit

soz mate you've gotten 0wned by the facts better luck next time

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#133 - 2012-06-13 19:56:52 UTC
more to the point nobody seems to be able to point to any actual "crying"

they can point to relentless laughing at jade and pretend that's crying but nobody but jade believes it

soz m8

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#134 - 2012-06-13 19:58:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
I think you need to take your damage control sideshow over to Eve News 24 weasalor. Quite an amusing new blog by Jester.

Your guys are taking a hellova PR kicking over this one Cool

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zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#135 - 2012-06-13 20:10:12 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
zxc Uisen wrote:

i'll say it so there's no misunderstanding:
goons had a game feature go against them, ccp "fixed" it, the way they saw fit (loudest voices got their way), and now you're saving face by changing the message to "ccp fixes broken mechanic".

except ccp has repeatedly confirmed that not only did goonswarm not complain but this change started getting worked on even before jade started trying to pull this exploit

soz mate you've gotten 0wned by the facts better luck next time


if you bothered to read the quote, it explains that ccp's perception of the problem (that attackers are too vulnerable to defenders with the current ally system) is crooked, when in fact it promotes a tough fight for the attacker (you claim to want gudfites).

it's all to avoid risk, which you, as self-hating closet carebears want to do...
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#136 - 2012-06-13 20:42:06 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
(you claim to want gudfites).

no we don't
we want to make people suffer not honourably joust on the field of battle

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#137 - 2012-06-13 20:42:59 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
I think you need to take your damage control sideshow over to Eve News 24 weasalor. Quite an amusing new blog by Jester.

Your guys are taking a hellova PR kicking over this one Cool

ahahahahahaha

you're precious

"en24 publishes something bad about goons, i guess it's a weekday"

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#138 - 2012-06-13 20:45:43 UTC
riverini is still a little bitter we torpedoed his campaign so hard he lost when even issler made it on

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zxc Uisen
Doomheim
#139 - 2012-06-13 20:49:34 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
zxc Uisen wrote:
(you claim to want gudfites).

no we don't
we want to make people suffer not honourably joust on the field of battle


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1470317#post1470317
^ my bad, misread that
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#140 - 2012-06-13 20:56:13 UTC
zxc Uisen wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
zxc Uisen wrote:
(you claim to want gudfites).

no we don't
we want to make people suffer not honourably joust on the field of battle


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1470317#post1470317
^ my bad, misread that


Yes you did, Weaselior talked about shooting people. This can be one-sided. See: executions

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