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you talk about 9Bill a mounth more isk in the game... well what about ALL the stuff that dosn't drop when you blow up other ship's ..

and incurtion ship have the fit value of like 4 bill. and when this ship explode. only 15% of the moduls drop, we are talking about officer and faction module witch dosn't drop, thy get distroied.

and this is just incurtion runners. in PVP this is the same. a ship dies. and all you get is the enemies ammo. no realy good loot from there modules.

don't talk about putting ISK into the game. when the Drop rate of Combat Loot takes 200% more out of the game.

stop crying.. Incurtions sould ONLY be in high seq. as it is sansha trying to get back on the empire .. WTF sould he realy try to invade NILL seq' realy ..???? this dosn't make any sinds at all.. the story is that he was dobblecrosed by Amarr empire. and "sould" only try to invade high seq for tis reson..

the fact that incurtions are in low and nill is only to balance the game..

and while we are at it.. when are we getting Tech moon mining in high seq.. "just to balance the game"

The above. As demonstrated by the stacking of Override Transfer Array's what you are still going to see is the OTA's all stacking up in the Vanguards by noon USA Eastern standard time. The NCO nerf I actually agreed with in stopping the legion blitz fleets predominance, the the wall of OTA's will continue: I unfortunely don't see these 2 rollbacks doing much except making it easier for the shield HQ fleets.
Another issue that was never really addressed was the Assault system stacking of the NCN's. They were always the stumbling block of assaults and still are. Still unsure why the other 2 Assault system sites were changed because these changes actually made them longer not shorter to run. I do think that Assaults are run now more often because of t he stacking of OTA's.



I think that Increasing the payout only for the OTA's & the NCN's to make them more attractive is the only quick temporary fix.
A better fix then just bufing the ISK is actual changes to the 2 sites but I doubt DEV's have the time while puting out all the other fires caused by Inferno bugs/unintended consequences:
I see these changes as a long delayed kneejerk reaction which won't fix the problem of why the Vanguards 'floored'

That's where you're wrong!

isk out of the game .. would work from the LP' stores.. problem is that the dog tag's needed for this trade dosn't drop.

perhaps blitzing the incursion equivalent of L3 missions isn't supposed to be more profitable than any other PvE in the game?

Believe it or not, it's not the isk that the incursion runners are worried about, the profit as it stands right now without any rollbacks is just fine. The real issue is one single broken site type that causes fleets to disband.

By having group pve content that pays similarily (as in not significantly higher) to missions you give pve minded players something to do, which can't be anything but good for the game. Heck, it's even good for the pvp minded players as that way they can do their grind with buddies whenever they need and screw around in comms while doing so. The boring solo grind that is missions should really be the last resort in a game that is supposed to be multiplayer. Sure, incursion grinding can be boring too, and it is, but with buddies that sometimes neccessary grind for isk to pew pew can become much more bearable.

Yes, caring about the risk/reward balance in the game is griefing. Good to know!

I seriously doubt mentally stable person would participate in headquarters/assaults hi-sec fleets for 25-30 m ISK per hour because L4 missions are more profitable considering zero fleet waiting time (you don't need fleet to run L4).

Also I doubt 10% payments boost will be enough to re-animate vanguards activity due to unbearable OTA sites difficulty so I have a question: how many more months to wait until next fix / boost / nerf?

not need to numbers but some nice graphs, would be lovely.